- 223's a far better choice than 308, shtf
- if have cover, (pistol, normal times) why
- killing men is easy, if u don't consider
- 90% of the hassle about killing is about
- wtf makes u "think" u r going to use
- if u can't handle rolling them over, checking
- aint TALKING about military, dummy. The
- HOW patch bullet holes, water-tower
- electricity has to be "repumped", Power
- need 50 milliontroops to subdue US
- couldn't GIVE AWAY Tyenol, after 6 casesof
- mobility, discretion is everything.
- Took US Marshals MONTHS to set up
- clowns THINK that they can RUN, 100 lbs
- foot mobile man can always "fort-up",
- how will you KNOW that it's ok to only
- TEOTWAWKI has no "L" in it.
- The shotgun is pointless for shtf, too
- 1000 rds fired, rifle armor on, still dead
- it's just SO unreasonable, 300 rds of sp
- 26 killed, 70 surrendered to York, 26
- BAT24, our pilot inBosnia, survived many
- lower 48 states is 4.5 million square
- split up, bury $100, 5000 rd case of .22lr
- subsonic .22lr, "can", animals don't move
- Clint Boyer ADMITS to snitching for Feds
- Gunkid is afraid of strong women
- Half day FTX won't cut it
- Your Guard Dog
- What 22 pistol would you want for SHTF survival.
- I have a nurse friend, whom I taught
- What are your SHTF and Survival plans for supplies and equipment?
- Primitive survival skills ...
- How far, is far enough away for you?
- What firearms and calibers should be avoided for SHTF ...
- A horse for SHTF back country transportation?
- If you could only have one 22 rifle, what would it be?
- Map and Compass - Yes or No?
- Small Gunsmithing Kit
- I'd rather have a BAR, auto 12 ga, (box
- What would be the surest cause of a SHTF scenario to you?
- A survival system for MELVIN ...
- Are any of you aware of this preparedness site?
- To Rika and the others
- WHAT man used even 30 rds of pistol
- Russkies used pistols to shoot their OWN
- WAITING for ONE documented case,
- 2 guys with auto rifles pop up, 25-50
- Decent LW SHTF weapon combo
- there R no such cases, in modern warfare
- do a search for GunsNStuff online catalog
- I can't get excited about the "survival" rifles
- Self-made TACK for your survival horse?
- Homeade bow, blunt arrows, 10", 30m
- Rifle scope on belt is lame excuse for compact binoculars JD
- How bought a picture of your SHTF gear JD
- if pistol's 8" at 25m, it suffices for real
- DECENT horse is $1500, and as much
- I'dtrade inability to hit chest, 10m+
- why bother with any gun BUT shtf models
- What's Al-Quaida's Best Next Move?
- Moreland took 24 deer, 24 rds of .22lr
- Guns are actually not the biggest part of 'survival'
- u wont be in ANY position to chase
- 6 man patrol team aint <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>, man
- 20 men, 6 months to build a "fort",
- my silencer books sold 150,000 copies
- other things r't at risk of being outlawed
- at LEAST as many illegally owned silencers
- Paladin's "how to" video,making cans,
- Concerning concealment of an AR15...
- why CARE about rust, OUTSIDE of gun?
- The Acu'rzr and Nastinose for your 22
- what's the point? regular .22's have plenty
- The Skachet
- Keeping cool during shtf
- Life in Canada
- why CAN'T you have a dugout, hmm?
- M21 has FAR more ability bow, arrows,
- .22 mag SOLIDS outperform Stingers,
- also, MANY hundreds/hrs with bow,
- takes HOURS to stalk within bow
- ROCK hit,to body, slingshot WONT stop
- canned m21 will brain men, 25m, rather
- small critters,most birds, aint WORTH
- CAN'T teach what u don't KNOW, and
- I've seen claims that plumber, electrician0
- Not even a group as tough as the Apaches could "live off the land" when thier SHTF
- Lone "backpacker" will likely die lonely death SHTF
- saw 2 bears at local dump yesterday,
- no, u AINT gonna be carrying 300 rds, 308
- 300 radio-led Feds, 30 days, chased
- 50 lbs of OTHER survival gear, 30+ lbs
- u r SCARED of being alone, cause u r
- "Great Escape" guys, WW2 really f-up
- LET yourself be as helpless as Jews were
- ONE hit is all u GET, 300+m. cause they
- 5 guys walk by, 25m, bolt user can't do
- If pache had ghillies,canned CARs,
- 10 guys, 40 hits, 2.0 sec ambush puts
- WHEN did Apache get to PRACTICE
- 3 guys, enfiladed away from you, at 30-60 ft,
- Teuf, other guys with prepared places to be SHTF:
- Hard times breed hard folks
- Those stupes will never catch up with me!
- Kit required
- cats, dogs, livestock don't fear manscent
- JD, please describe 'SHTF'
- Survival Footwear
- wont be any TIME to "breed" hard folks
- once hit with 223 in chest, u won't
- Fireworks?
- WHO pays for the guys to hunt somebody
- STILL have to track, hunt fugitives, SAME
- How does heat affect ammo?
- 8 guys walk by, slung sks's 10m, can u
- big Brother is the threat, not the Arabs
- u can't hear a .22 bolt cycle more than
- ONE small critter a day is all the meat
- homemade smgs(canned)=TV news
- Weather prediction
- Scenario Game
- The Backpack Survivalist
- Pop Smoke
- moreland survived 11 years of Idaho
- Knife reworking project
- SHTF - mother nature strikes
- You want to see SHTF?
- u aint got a fort, tank, 20 trained, disciplined
- Weaver was STUPID to stay on his own
- I dont NEED practice, better'n garnad
- GOOD 223 can, fired out of a van's open
- hadn't touched a rifle,12 years, 1" rocks
- stockpiles of food, friends, ammo,etc,
- 16 lbs of gun-gear, 4 lbs of concealable
- silliness of shotgun-rifle combos for shtf
- ignorant enough, choose 308-45, shtf
- Let's see here.....
- him Tarzan, got LOTS big knives, wow
- TRY suppressing rifle barrel of 0/U combo
- Someone hacked PN
- pop cow 1st nite,shtf, get 200 lbs of grain
- zero subsonic 22 rifle at 90m, 2 ft low
- "cans"
- Did some more work on my current knife project
- "cans" r pointless, slingshot is the way
- I put in hundreds of hrs, slingshot practice
- My latest homemade PVC pipe knife sheath
- 500 rds .22lr will outlast U if shtf
- 4 ft of hickory shovel handle, I'll shove your
- 2 kinds of ID. Kind you show a cop, kind
- stout limb or sapling, whittled-down-broken
- Some interesting observations concerning hunting in the far north
- Andy ?
- I have 100's of hours with Bow, arrows,
- I could pop 1 of your cows, NOW, take
- 11"223 hits,200m, like 44-40 lever@50m
- REALITY of shtf is most military will DESERT
- only about 10% of military is infantry. Almost
- 11" CAR, DUMPS big feral dogs, 200 paces
- 11"223, Winchester ball, 2 for 2 on big deer
- KNOW some of u pos's have called Hack,
- big Brother can't even keep out wetbacks,
- Reduce Military by 90%. They don't accomplish
- have a dozen backpack nukes, nobody DARES
- small nuke, beside a reactor, will make
- Siefried put .5 mill .45s thru pair of 1911's,
- is a comp, on an alloy compact, REALLY
- with all your practice, what CAN u do?
- "NEEDING" to take big game, beyond 100m
- Plenty of guys will shoot EVERYONE they see,
- power goes off, towns have no WATER. nearly
- closer to the end than we were 1000 yrs ago
- Common Sense Guard Dogs
- FRS/GMRS Two-ways
- First aid?.........are you prepared
- Disaster (real life)
- Victimless Crimes?
- Lentils
- bartering ammo=STUPID. U'll just get shot
- Plenty won't give u CHANCE to prove how
- "only" 10% of 100mill men will shoot on sight
- "it's for the CHILDREN". sure it is, u pos.
- U r ready to kill ALL felons, why SHOULDN'T
- Intelligent people wont TAKE any but 22, 223
- punks just HATE facts, logic. :-)
- Map and compass crap
- Snared Again
- Of age and such
- Filipinos hunted Jap "holdout" for 25 YEARS,
- 1960s, Filipinos had maps,compasses, radios
- dont NEED compass for basic wayfinding.
- O2, acetylene bottles r everywhere,FAR more
- when I'm 70, I'll out-backpack any 30 yr old woman
- u, dozen buddies, go AHEAD,form your "search-
- work out like LaLanne did,eat like he did
- Land Navigation
- so WHAT'S the big hurry? why you gotta
- if need to be able to getsomeplace, better
- Cold beer, hard liquor, hot women, and mosquito netting
- A plan for those under the felony burden
- SHTF Sleeping Arrangements
- Lalanne's 89 years old, can do LOTS u couldn't
- Criminal Justice numbers
- So, it's after SHTF, it's finally here...
- guys surrender now, because they will make
- Rogers' Rangers Standing Orders
- Ambush Tactics - your training and experience
- military goes where they are sent, use what
- Beyond tracking chips
- Cheesy SHTF fiction
- Excellent cold weather head gear
- A Spooked Optomist
- fill 12" balloon with Acetyelene, tie a string
- Loading tip to help insure survival...
- Gunkid
- Advanced Military Combat Course (modified)
- u just aint got any EXPERIENCE with the Hornet
- Gunkid
- 22 rifle to forehead drops 1500 lb bulls like
- LEHALITY and stopping power have little in
- CIA expert on the War on Terror
- short 223 has 8x the power of .22lr, and u
- why don't just LEAVE the rd chambered, hmm?
- u can literally forget u have pocket gun, even
- I was taught to "see the enemy" as I trained,
- favorite tool
- hold a BIG beef's head in front of your chest,
- I know scores of ranchers, farmers who don't
- lots think deer meat sucks, but elk is FINE
- 1 deer sized animal a month suffices for
- plants don't MOVE, HALF of diet MUST be
- u r STUPID to NEED to take a big animal.
- there's 10x the cattle that there are elk,moose, bears
- ALSO hogs, sheep, goats, horse, Llamas,
- fire noisy 308 at every hawk, owl,possum,
- lug around BOTH 308, .22rifle,scoped?
- who's GOT 1000's of rds to spray at darkness
- where PUT canned Ruger .22, AND 1911,
- yeah, yeah, everybody's gonna ABANDON
- HE'S holding still, hiding, U r moving, TRYING
- it can take u WEEKS of searching to catch
- u aint leaving before everyone else does,
- SILENT bullet in 1-2 of u, rest r giving UP
- u SO brave, SCARED to make a .22 can in
- when it's for real, u wont do jack crap but
- Bipod, canned, scoped CAR, hitting SECOND
- subsonic 22lr still lethal, 150m, NO "crack"
- if u were 19 in 1952,u HAVE to be 71 years
- u can STEP on a man, using a depression