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amount to much when using the gun swiftly,from the leather. 20 LPI checkering matches them, but weakens the frame a lot, especially where it's beveled for fast mag swaps. So it's best to just peen the serretatins flat, and then stipple the front strap. The mainspring housing will benefit from a 20 LPI checkering. It's just serrated vertically, so it has little "holding power" vertically, as in recoil control when your hands are sweaty, bloody, numb with cold, etc.
"So it's best to just peen the serretatins flat, and then stipple the front strap.
Spoken like a true gunbutcher. Peen 'em flat my @ss.
RIKA
Hard Rock
06-30-2004, 08:48 AM
Hey gunkid, do you even know how to hand checker anything? Or do you hack job that too?
Mike
of what's what. I've seen MANY a 1911 frame cracked at its bottom front because 20LPI checkering cut too deeply, and the Gold Cup's serrations are too coarse for mating to 30 LPI worth a hoot. It's bozos like you who DO cut the front strap with 20LPI checkering who are the butchers. Stippling is far more efficient as a gripping surface,without tearing up your hand.
So is skateboard tape but checkering is sooo classy. If done properly and not by a heavy handed goon there is no danger of anything cracking.
RIKA
Hard Rock
07-02-2004, 08:41 AM
Come on Tard, how do you do it?
I know, I've got a trade mark pattern for checkering. I've done quite a few number of guns by hand. Please, tell us how you do it. Describe the stippling technique.
Mike
Stillwater
07-21-2004, 03:43 PM
I have 13 1911 pistols, four of which are GOLD CUPS, all are checkered. The stippled front straps, that I have seen, look like a butcher was working on them.
Sooo, I win, you loose -- big time.
Bill
Stillwater
07-21-2004, 03:44 PM
Come on Tard, how do you do it?
I know, I've got a trade mark pattern for checkering. I've done quite a few number of guns by hand. Please, tell us how you do it. Describe the stippling technique.
Mike
Hard Rock, he probably used a checkering device. He could never get good enough to do the checkering free hand.
Bill
Stillwater
07-21-2004, 03:46 PM
of what's what. I've seen MANY a 1911 frame cracked at its bottom front because 20LPI checkering cut too deeply, and the Gold Cup's serrations are too coarse for mating to 30 LPI worth a hoot. It's bozos like you who DO cut the front strap with 20LPI checkering who are the butchers. Stippling is far more efficient as a gripping surface,without tearing up your hand.
The truth is exactly the opposite from what you are saying. Any fool should know that.
You loose, I win again for being right.
so you worry about LOOKS? If that's a big deal, run a Tig bead down the 2 outside serrations. They are the only ones that can't be completely hidden by the stippling. I always used an air chisel for most of the stippling, filling in around the edges with the hand powered tool. Then use a knife edged file to make a neat border around it all, using the "plates" that protect the grip screw bushings as a guideline for the file. The fact that you have lots of <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>ed up guns doesn't mean squat.
Stillwater
07-21-2004, 03:58 PM
so you worry about LOOKS? Dumbass. If that's a big deal, run a Tig bead down the 2 outside serrations. They are the only ones that can't be completely hidden by the stippling. I always used an air chisel for most of the stippling, filling in around the edges with the hand powered tool. Then use a knife edged file to make a neat border around it all, using the "plates" that protect the grip screw bushings as a guideline for the file. The fact that you have lots of <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>ed up guns doesn't mean squat.
Nope, I just don't believe you, and what you say about stippling vs. checkering is complete Bull Squat. Neither checkering or stippling, when done properly, damage the frame of a 1911. You lose, I win.
Are you trying to say that you're a better gunsmith than Jim Hoag, or some of the other master gunsmiths, working in the field?
Bill
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