View Full Version : Olympic Arms AR-15
800RMK
08-31-2004, 08:23 PM
Im new but, I was looking into an olympic arms ar-15 CAR-97. Just wondering what you guys think of these guns as far as reliability and accuracy, also fit and finish quality. these guns retail for 780 and I was wondering what you guys payed for yours so I dont go and pay way too much.. and are they chambered in .223? Thanks in advace.
brass hammer
08-31-2004, 09:50 PM
I SUFFERED, LIKE YOU!
on buying an olympic[sp] ar15, a few shops were selling their'plinker' model
for right at $600, i looked, waited, looked again, and conversed with some 'in the know ' salesmen, they all said to go a couple of $ more and buy the bushmaster, well i waited and looked ,then finally went to buy the ole' and the shop was sold out[they were flying out the door ! wives buying suprise gifts for husbands] next shipment in a month!
i finally ended up buying the bushmaster for $840[not far , from where your at now]
no more than i shoot mine , it really wouldn't have been much of a difference[to me]
but I do know what i have with the bushmaster[there is a difference]
hope this helped, you, somehow!
thanks.
800RMK
08-31-2004, 10:47 PM
ok thanks btw do you know were olympic arms rifles are made????the problem with buying a bushmaster is that the same type rifle as the car97 retailed for just over 1000 dollars....i would be fine if i knew i could get the bushy for around the 800 dollar mark.....i mean is there anything really not so good about the olympic because a visual look at both and there is no difference between them at all.....??
brass hammer
08-31-2004, 11:10 PM
i'm in a fairly good mood this evening, so it's on me!
www.olyarms.com
it doesn't seem to have near the barrel the bushy has!
A lady of my close acquaintance has an Olympic AR, and it works fine. Cost about $600. What are you trying to achieve with such a rifle? the Colt causes problems, with it's lack of a front push pin, different pin diameters, etc. The Bushy is just overpriced. Take a look at Rock River lowers, on GunsAmerica.com, and Model One Sales parts kits, in ILL. The upper comes assembled, and if you can tie your shoes, you can assemble an AR lower. $600 for the pair.
brass hammer
09-02-2004, 04:02 AM
has NO FORWARD ASSIST, nor, the southpaw brass bumper.
heap big features ! :rolleyes:
Bolt forward assist is almost never needed,and when the bolt doesn't go shut,it's often a BAD idea to jam that "not yet chambered" round up into the chamber. Best find out WHY the rd isn't chambering, before using force. I've shot AR's southpaw for many years, with no problems from the ejected casings.
Olympic is located in WA state, last I knew, but I have no idea if they actually make,or even work onthe guns there.
TODD 3465
09-02-2004, 12:56 PM
Just for everyones' info Colt went to a push pin on the new sporter models a few years back.
The pin diameter is a none issue unless you want to convert to full-auto or belive in that parts scavanging nonsense.
gripper
09-02-2004, 07:09 PM
If the Olympic is a casting;you may be better off with a Bushy at the extra cost.Having never owned one of the Olympics,my own prejudice is in favor of the forgings(or in other designs-the better stampings).Forged IS a bit heavier,but my metallurgical knowledge probably is outdated. Try and find out what the durability(sustained fire and hard use-rough conditions )is on the current castings;they may have gotten better.As I recall,the powdered /sintered metal processes MAY have improved,I can't say for certain.
BTW,also check on things like extractor/spring quality,fit and finish/durability of other critical parts.If it works great....until it breaks you might have gotten your mojney's worth on a "steal of a deal".
Garand
09-02-2004, 08:35 PM
Back in 1987 I had a AR15A2 built on an Oly lower receiver, it gave me sterling service in the 10 years that I owned the rifle. As for the bolt forward assist, yes it is still very much required.
big deal, if u NEED it to always function,simply have a spare,assembled bolt-group,to include extractor, firing pin, ejector, etc, stashed in the pistol grip.
In the firing of many thousands of rds, thru half a dozen AR's,and WATCHING as many more, I've never ONCE seen the need of the bolt forward assist, nor needed it myelf. But then the sort of guys that I shot with never tried to use junk reloads, like garnad makes. :-)
Aslan
09-03-2004, 12:39 PM
big deal, if u NEED it to always function,simply have a spare,assembled bolt-group,to include extractor, firing pin, ejector, etc, stashed in the pistol grip.
In the firing of many thousands of rds, thru half a dozen AR's,and WATCHING as many more, I've never ONCE seen the need of the bolt forward assist, nor needed it myelf. But then the sort of guys that I shot with never tried to use junk reloads, like garnad makes. :-)
Was this on your 1/2 day ftx's? or more then likely at a range (improvised or otherwise), and therefore not based on any real field conditions?
Behavior of a weapon at a range is not necessarily an indication of how it will do in the field under realistic conditions...
:devil:
only the LOWER is cast, and it carries such a light burden of wear or recoil that .50 BMG upper manufacturers deem the AR lower of sustaining THAT sort of stress. So 223 shooting aint going to stress it at all
With any gun that you depend upon, and/or shoot a lot, best have TWO. One to practice with, one "spare", for "duty" use, and as another to shoot with if the first one breaks. Spare parts that are likely to break, springs that weaken, or little pcs that tend to fly away and get lost while working on the gun, should of course be kept, and skill at fixing or at least knowledge about how to repair parts should be acquired.
Garand
09-05-2004, 01:21 PM
Actually I really don't think gunkid ever went on a 1/2 day ex!
One half day means 12 hours, I really don't think he could handle that long, maybe between 1pm and 4:30 pm I would buy, but not much longer. By the way tell us about your escape!
Terry G
09-06-2004, 05:34 PM
My Colt SP-1's are the .223's I treasure, but If I was going to buy a .223 today in Military configuration, it would be the Armalite M-15. Light, fast handling, and very accurate and reliable. I shot my son's yesterday. 3/4 inch groups with Eagle Arms ammunition. Pretty ho-hum stuff, for ammunition, so the gun is doing it's job.
Terry G
09-08-2004, 08:08 PM
big deal, if u NEED it to always function,simply have a spare,assembled bolt-group,to include extractor, firing pin, ejector, etc, stashed in the pistol grip.
In the firing of many thousands of rds, thru half a dozen AR's,and WATCHING as many more, I've never ONCE seen the need of the bolt forward assist, nor needed it myelf. But then the sort of guys that I shot with never tried to use junk reloads, like garnad makes. :-)I would purely LOVE to see you fit a AR-15, M-16 bolt in the "pistol grip". You get funnier and funnier!
Maybe YOU can't take a dremel and make a bit of clearance, if need be, but any twit can do so.
Garand
09-15-2004, 05:07 PM
Post your loads, chrono numbers and group sizes of 5.56mm that you have build and I'll post mine. Simple.
Terry G
09-15-2004, 05:14 PM
Maybe YOU can't take a dremel and make a bit of clearance, if need be, but any twit can do so.Just take a Dremel and make another cobbled up firearm. Let's see a picture of your battery, john-boy.
M16 pistol grips are a whole $3, dumbass. All you have to do is have the bolt face at the bottom of the pistol grip, "inlet' it with Dremel if need be, and tape over the hole i the pistol grip, dumbass.
Terry G
09-16-2004, 04:19 PM
M16 pistol grips are a whole $3, dumbass. All you have to do is have the bolt face at the bottom of the pistol grip, "inlet' it with Dremel if need be, and tape over the hole i the pistol grip, dumbass.Let's see; we have a chopped up AR-15, (No Brand Named) 10 inch barrel no less, with an extra bolt rattling around in the pistol grip, and a homemade suppressor. This is going to be his main line battle rifle. Then for back up a military surplus cobbled up Star 9MM and a Phoenix Arms .22. This is your idea of an effective battery, John? You don't know the first thing about firearms; you just think you do. You DON'T own anything.
The fact remains that u r a dumbass, who'd rather have a PRETTY gun than one that is properly set up for combat. Since u r a Fed, that's GREAT. :-)
JD, there is a world difference between a gun properly set up for combat and a Frankengun made from cobbled up parts held together by duct tape and precision fitted with the Dremel. Is Andy your Igor protege'?
RIKA
gripper
09-16-2004, 06:14 PM
You know, I'm not one who thinks a lot of people who namecall instead of dealing with a discussion point by point.If after a reasonable discussion yeilds nothing useful;then by all means insult where appropriate. Asda cheapo hideout utility, the HP.22 in not the worse possible choice. In fact I like it better than your usual first choice poodle popper, the chopped/suppressed CAR15?conversionkit/concealed in an empty pocket in your shorts,while being towed along in the assault wheelbarrow by the de-barked Chuhuaua(Quiere Taco BeLL, Pistolito?)while you prpare to live off of the incompetent struggling stragglers during a SHTF situation while staying one step ahead of an ever increasing number of people who want very much to stomp you like a rat at a bike rally........uh,did I leave anytrhing out? Oh, yeah , HP@@ does work for cheap practice /hideout gun role. For the money, the one I had DID shoot to the point of aim without a malfunction no matter WHAR $hitty Walmart .22 I fed it. :shrugs:
Unfortunately Gripper, I think we are all guilty of shooting from the lip from time-to-time. Human frailty, huh?
RIKA
84 C4
09-17-2004, 12:48 AM
So did Melvin give out his address yet? I have some free time this weekend. Guess he's afraid of me...don't see any reason why he should be. His chopped CAR15 definately trumps my SKS, or my 336, or my Mossberg 500, or my...I guess the point's been made.
Terry G
09-17-2004, 02:48 PM
The fact remains that u r a dumbass, who'd rather have a PRETTY gun than one that is properly set up for combat. Since u r a Fed, that's GREAT. :-)I own exactly ONE (pretty Gun) and that's not a combat weapon. My weapons are state of the art, and bought for reliabilty and accuracy, not for "pretty". The stuff you reccomend is bargain basement trash, not viable defense weapons. As for the name calling, it fit's your record as being diagnosed with having an emotional age of 12.
TODD 3465
09-17-2004, 03:04 PM
Terry G- The emotional level diagnosis fits EXACTLY as to what the comments are of about everyone who I show Melvin's posts too, who do not vist the boards he does and have an unbiased opinion.
SatCong
09-18-2004, 12:29 PM
What was that codicil on this board regarding name calling and less than flattering comments? BTW, I thought GK left in indignant rage. Apparently his threats are more evidence for his lack of any credibility, save his rehashed, plagerized technical posts. Andy, we kill you on every argument, will you please have the decency to stay dead?
SatCong
only in your ignorant mind do you ever even score a POINT, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>. I"ve NEVER ONCE taken anyone else's ideas, but I've seen PLENTY of people like you posting about things they learned from ME,to INCLUDE garnad.
gripper
10-01-2004, 06:44 PM
Andy:What anyone posting here actually learned from you ?I mean besides tolerance for the difficult......All kidding aside,why not WAIT until someone mischaracterizes you or your posts before resorting to the namecalling,etc?
I have a mean streak. Its not close to the surface,but if someone roots around for it ,theay CAN find that tripwire.Wanna try and dial it down?Whats the worst that could happen?
Oh, but you did steal my name over at the Hoodlums. Pretending to be me - what a laugh. I even had to use another name on one of the forums so they wouldn't think I was a troll.
RIKA
hey, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>, I never claimed that the STUPID COULD learn, but a few have learned a lot, by TRYING. The teacher can't MAKE you fine but mentally challenged people learn ANYTHING.
When all else fails, use personal attack. Right GK. Reason and logic are non-existant - along with your kit.
RIKA
brass hammer
10-01-2004, 08:48 PM
only in your ignorant mind do you ever even score a POINT, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>. I"ve NEVER ONCE taken anyone else's ideas, but I've seen PLENTY of punks like you posting about things they learned from ME,to INCLUDE garnad.
i recall asking you man to man a question as to who would be putting the most projectiles down range at 40 yards in the first 3 seconds of contact.
you being armed with 10rd. 12ga.semi-auto/loaded#4 buck,#00mix.
[3] 'unfriendlies' armed with 'burp'guns[stens/uzi/mp5/etc.]
i think THIS is where the 10ga/20mm 'deathbeast' idea was hatched!
no biggie, feel free[you are, you know! why do you have to be a CONSTANT
deleted, i've noticed you were fleetingly/briefly in the GREEN ZEROS :headbang: HA! HA! HA!
THANKS.
gripper
10-01-2004, 09:11 PM
Is he REALLY that obsessive about being some kind of cyber -guru for combative skills?Obsessive as in'who said what first BS?How old is he?I'm startiong to get the idea that Melvin/Andy/.223fan/Gunkid/Tard/Fanboy/whoever is actually some frustrated 11 year old kid whohates what he is and projects.Of course, the alternative is that he DOES exist and is putting us all on. Or that he exists and really IS prone to having his mouth outrun his knowledge....or good sense.
Is he REALLY that obsessive about being some kind of cyber -guru for combative skills?Obsessive as in'who said what first BS?How old is he?I'm startiong to get the idea that Melvin/Andy/.223fan/Gunkid/Tard/Fanboy/whoever is actually some frustrated 11 year old kid whohates what he is and projects.Of course, the alternative is that he DOES exist and is putting us all on. Or that he exists and really IS prone to having his mouth outrun his knowledge....or good sense.
Gripper, I believe that he is a 52yr old man - an ex convict. He has never gotten out of his prison thinking mode where he has to be totally tough and macho and he must always be right. He must be totally insecure about his manhood and his place in life so he plays the only game he knows - to be the one and only expert on firearms and survival on the internet.
A bunch of us (mostly men) have asked him to lighten up and start acting like a human being. He thinks that if he does that he will lose respect. WRONG! He has no understanding of human nature outside of his prison experience. People tend to discard anything intelligent he has to say just because of his arrogant attitude.
Apologies if I seemed to preach. Just my opinion.
RIKA
Glenn Bartley
10-02-2004, 02:23 AM
Maybe he was traumatized by someone whom he trusted over the years. Maybe we should feel sorry for him, and accept him as he is. NOT ME THOUGH, I WILL JUST KEEP DELETING ALL THE DEROGATROY STUFF I SEE THAT HE HAS POSTED, THEN AGAIN THAT GOES FOR EVERYONE ELSE TOO. Let's lighten up a bit, it takes me hours each night to go through all the new posts from a day (yes a telephone modem is all I have).
84 C4
10-02-2004, 12:02 PM
it takes me hours each night to go through all the new posts from a day (yes a telephone modem is all I have).
Dial-up pwns all!!
1337
Garand
10-03-2004, 05:22 PM
Gunkid/erika, I'm fascinated that you actually think that I've learned something from you. Please post a link to the thread that states it! If true, I didn't think that I was that narrow minded. Oh the horror, the horror.....
INSANECANE
10-17-2004, 05:42 AM
Olympic is located in WA state, last I knew, but I have no idea if they actually make,or even work on the guns there.
Oly makes ALL of the parts for thier guns. Unlike Bushy, Colt and the rest, they all wind up buying from Oly.
You also get a REAL lifetime guarantee from OLY, not just a promise.
The only OLY ARMS made with a CAST reciever is the PLINKER. The rest are FORGED.
Hope this helps someone out there.
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