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Garand
09-21-2004, 01:26 AM
Is this the ultimate 12 gauge?


http://media.skoopy.com/vids/vid_00120.wmv
Magnum88C
09-21-2004, 07:05 AM
I imagine it'd be a bit heavy, but talk about a hand-held claymore. . .

Which is of course why the ATF had them classified as a "destructive device".
RIKA
09-21-2004, 07:33 AM
Awesome firepower. It appears to be a bit slow to reload and carrying multiple mags would be a chore. I like it though.

RIKA
andy
09-21-2004, 10:48 AM
if u need that sort of firepower,u have already screwed up so badly that only luck can save you.
RIKA
09-21-2004, 10:51 AM
if u need that sort of firepower,u have already screwed up so badly that only luck can save you.

What would a little girl like you know about firepower, "erika". Go get a bikini wax.

RIKA :D
84 C4
09-21-2004, 11:26 AM
I want one in 10ga. :dgrin:
RIKA
09-21-2004, 11:31 AM
I think a 10ga would be effective on giant reptoids. :D

RIKA
Aslan
09-21-2004, 04:40 PM
if u need that sort of firepower,u have already screwed up so badly that only luck can save you.

How about, if you find yourself facing that sort of firepower and all you have is a poodle shooter, you've screwed up so badly that luck probably won't save you....

:devil:
Garand
09-21-2004, 09:04 PM
gunkid, the girlie-man wouldn't have the knowledge to employ that sort of firepower to ensure its maximum advantage anyways.
DJetAce
09-21-2004, 09:15 PM
Ithica made a simi-auto 'Roadblocker' in 10 guage. Only catch was it was a 3 shooter. Now with muzzle break, recoil reduicer, shot spreader, and 7 shot mag, a 10 guage 3 1/2 inch shotgun has much to offer. Every time you pull the trigger you fire something like 15 9mm rounds.

I would think a good 12 guage set up that way would be an excellent anti-ambush weapon. I seem to remember the Brits and South Africans felt the same way. And they have lots more experience than gunkid and almost everything known to man.
Terry G
09-21-2004, 10:42 PM
It looks to have awesome short-range firepower, but a lot of ambushes/firefights happen at 50 plus yards. I think the effectiveness would be limited at any range past 40 yards. Fooling around with 870's a couple years ago, a couple fellow instructors and I concluded that 12 Gauge No. 4 law enforcement buckshot was pretty much ineffective past 35 yards. The pattern dispersed to widely for an effective shot. Also, at 50 yards the shot was sometimes even bouncing off the wood target frames. Shotguns are great, but know their limits.
Garand
09-22-2004, 12:49 AM
Depending on the terrain it could be very effective. Think the Pacific Northwest!
brass hammer
09-22-2004, 02:03 AM
yes! heavily wooded/brushy a.o's[kenetic chainsaw]

i think it would be 'ideal' as a firing port weapon in an amoured car! perhaps,a hook on the muzzle like the german mp 38/40.

definitly counter ambush firepower!

i have seen that video clip before, and i liked it as much the second time, as i did the first!


thanks.
Aslan
09-22-2004, 01:52 PM
Think of that fully loaded with flechettes.....

:devil:
41mag
09-22-2004, 02:47 PM
Hmmpf.I'd think that that would make a pretty good home remodeling tool.

It's one of the "koolest"guns I've seen.
Magnum88C
09-22-2004, 06:29 PM
Think of that fully loaded with flechettes.....

:devil:


That would greatly improve the range.

However even with buckshot, even if the ambush was trigger out of it's effective range, spraying a bunch of shot ove rthe ambushers WILL keep their heads down long enough for most of your guys out of the immediate kill zone and prosecute a counterattack.

This would also be one hell of a weapon to have in an overrrun situation.