Resident Troll

[ASPHALT COWBOY]

I've read several posts here in which others claim, no flame intended, to know detailed information on the resident troll. I don't have the LEO connections nor the computer knowledge to either confirm nor refute these claims. I simply have a totaly different picture in my mind on the sittuation. Could someone clear this up for me?
And Yes, I'm trying to start something here.

[RIKA]

So what is it that you want cleared up? Also please tell us what your mental take of the situation is.

RIKA

[ASPHALT COWBOY]

Imagine, if you will, some swellhead somewhere with way too much time on his hands enjoying the laugh of a lifetime by trolling the members of this forum just to get a rise out of them. Sort of a new twist on the average troll baiting senario.

[RIKA]

Andy/gunkid is the real thing and has been for years. Problem is that much of the info he gives out is dangerous or illegal which could temp some trusting soul into getting killed or doing stuff resulting into prison time.

RIKA

[Rich Z]

But is it illegal for someone to discuss something that is dangerous or illegal on a publicly accessible message board?

And is it anyone here's job to act as the "daddy" to keep those poor innocent trusting souls from being able to read such things?

Aren't these the sort of arguments that the government uses to try to protect us from ourselves by taking away those dangerous guns, and anything else that *they* have determined may be dangerous to some people? People should have guns taken away from them because some people may hurt others with them. Is that what you are speaking of here?

My God, where has freedom gone, America? Just how many of us are perfectly willing to help set those pavings of good intentions in place on that road to hell?

[Magnum88C]

But is it illegal for someone to discuss something that is dangerous or illegal on a publicly accessible message board?

I don't know if it applies to the 'net, but I guess it depends if someone wants to build an "inciting to commit a felony" case. Last I knew that IS illegal. So, technically, AFAIK, the answer is yes.

[ASPHALT COWBOY]

I hadn't intended this to be a discution on anything other than Who this individual truely is.
I've encountered him on other forums, (leastwise someone who fit this fellow to a T) some totaly unrelated to guns, and there were those there claiming that an ISP, I believe they called it, backtrack was difficult due to the spyware and server rerouting he used.
I simply wonder if this couldn't be some lawyer, cpa, or other crank in whatever state with way to much time on his hands having a laugh at the expence of the internet.
Mind you I'm not trying to cast doubt on the qualifications or capabilities of anyone here, I'm just rather currious.

[Rich Z]

I don't know if it applies to the 'net, but I guess it depends if someone wants to build an "inciting to commit a felony" case. Last I knew that IS illegal. So, technically, AFAIK, the answer is yes.

The only reference I can find to "inciting to commit a felony" is:

Inciting a felony is the endeavor by one or more persons to incite or procure another person to commit a felony.


Unless GK is attempting to coerce someone else into commiting a a felony, either by himself, as his instrument, or as his accomplice, merely discussing a criminal act without the above intentions does not, as far as I can determine, constitute a criminal act in itself. If it were, I can think of a ton of fictional books I have read over the years that would make the authors criminals by the words they have written. Books that have, in great detail, described how to kill someone, blow things up, or do any number of things that if actually done, would be criminal acts. Heck, why isn't John Ross in prison for his book Unintended Consequences?

Most "what if" types of discussions in relation to SHTF scenarios will be describing actions that would be considered as criminal acts if done prior to the actual SHTF incident.

So unless I have missed a post or three by andy that fits into the "coercion" or "collusion" categories, I do not recall reading anything posted by andy that meets that criteria.

But I am certain that someone will correct me if I am wrong about that. :)

[Stillwater]

Go to this site, click on to Inmate locator, key in Inmate Register number 84034-012.

Or key in the name JOHN MELVIN DAVIS and see what you get!

http://www.governmentguide.com/govsite.adp?bread=*Main&url=http%3A//www.governmentguide.com/ams/clickThruRedirect.adp%3F55076483%2C16920155%2Chttp %3A//www.bop.gov/

[Magnum88C]

Rich, actually he HAS done so. He likes to try and get people to deal drugs for money, not for him, but someone asks a question on where jobs are paying well, or how to do something on the sheap, and he likes to tell them to sell coke and fill them in on how successful he was at it (leaving out the jail time of course).
He also like to OFTEN try to get people to make illegal supressors for their weapons often chiding them for being to lazy or chicken**** to do so (again leaving the jail time out of his stories).

I'm just not sure anyone would bother following through on it, so. . .might be a moot point, but still, it happens.

But your right MOST of his posts aren't inciting.

[.45 COLT]

Why is everybody so sure that Andy actually is who he claims to be (John Davis)? You call him liar on everything else. I can't believe that a convicted felon who has gotten out would risk being put back in the slam for stupid statements posted on net BB's.

I still think he's a 15 year-old who got into a collection of old "Guns & Ammo" mags, reads way too much SOF, has his bedroom walls plastered with pinups clipped out of "Goat Breeders Journal" and gets off on baiting folks on the internet.

DC

[John in AR]

Nothing to do with Andy here, just a general political observation...

The Founding Fathers, the victims of the Boston Massacre, Paul Revere, etc, were ALL undeniably guilty of “incitement”. Didn’t make them wrong.

‘Incitement’, ‘conspiracy’, ‘hate crimes’… they’re all examples of the nebulous, indefinable type of “laws” that make decent people “criminals” in the eyes of those who want to hold power.

It’s also interesting in how these subjective standards are applied. Swift boat vets, etc, are seen as “political opportunists, trying to negatively influence elections”, and Michael Moore, etc, are “bold free-thinkers, with the courage to question authority”.

Something amiss...

[Aslan]

The founding fathers committed treason. Had we lost the revolutionary war, they would have been executed for treason. The basic rule of history is that the winners get to write it, therefore they are always the good guys and in the right. The losers get to be written up as the bad guys. Just a basic rule on how it all works.

Before someone jumps on me incorrectly, I did not say I did not agree with the actions of the founding fathers - I think they acted boldly and correctly. I'm just commenting on the mechanics of how history gets recorded.

:devil:

[RIKA]

What Aslan says is true. If the Nazis had won WW2, they would have been the good guys and the Allies the evil empire.

RIKA

[Terry G]

I don't see where he's breaking any laws, but if I were a convicted felon still under supervision, I would be a might more careful. As for him lying about his past, he know's an awful lot about the Federal Prison System. So he's either a former Federal LEO or a former inmate.

[RIKA]

If GK is a former LEO then I'm a Doberman Pinscher.

RIKA

[Terry G]

If GK is a former LEO then I'm a Doberman Pinscher.

RIKAThat statement was very, very, toungue in cheek.

[Aslan]

Bad doggy! Bad dog!

You go straight to my room right now!

:devil:

[Stillwater]

Why is everybody so sure that Andy actually is who he claims to be (John Davis)? You call him liar on everything else. I can't believe that a convicted felon who has gotten out would risk being put back in the slam for stupid statements posted on net BB's.

I still think he's a 15 year-old who got into a collection of old "Guns & Ammo" mags, reads way too much SOF, has his bedroom walls plastered with pinups clipped out of "Goat Breeders Journal" and gets off on baiting folks on the internet.

DC

John Melvin Davis, stupidly published his Colorado Drivers license on the inter net, along with his social security number and his DD form 213.

Thus cross-identifying himself sufficiently to positivey identify him.

If you use the information posted, you can then go to the bureau of prisons website and identify him as a paroled felon.

Davis's parole officer, Mike Fischer is headquarted in Durango, CO.

Is that enough to help you?

[Mustafa Jones]

If this here man andy be like you say he lookin like a bigger mess than I thought

It like he want attention but not the good kind

almost feel like he think he missed something in life and trying to get it back by bringing all this crap on himslef

[RIKA]

Andy has no one else to blame but himself for the mess he is in. He tries to make up for it by putting all his faults and weaknesses on everyone else. Whats worse, he pushes everyone who tries to help him away. Guess he enjoys wallowing in his misery too much.

RIKA

[ASPHALT COWBOY]

John Melvin Davis, stupidly published his Colorado Drivers license on the inter net, along with his social security number and his DD form 213.

Thus cross-identifying himself sufficiently to positivey identify him.

If you use the information posted, you can then go to the bureau of prisons website and identify him as a paroled felon.

Davis's parole officer, Mike Fischer is headquarted in Durango, CO.

Is that enough to help you?
Now we're gettin somewhere, theft of a DD214 along with the DL and SSN sounds to coicidental, unless from someone close such as family or friend.
Startin to clear up some, Thanks.

[.45 COLT]

If he has posted all that, scans of the license / DD214, then I would have to take him at his word that he is John Davis. And reassess somewhat. He has the mind of a 15 year old in a 52 year old body. BTW, you got a link where I can see those scans?

DC

[Mustafa Jones]

I know what he do try and blame others for his own troubles and even make more for himself.

He act like he want help but then turn it down sound almost like he got 2 people upstairs instead of just one.

[Hard Rock]

The only reference I can find to "inciting to commit a felony" is:


Unless GK is attempting to coerce someone else into commiting a a felony, either by himself, as his instrument, or as his accomplice, merely discussing a criminal act without the above intentions does not, as far as I can determine, constitute a criminal act in itself. If it were, I can think of a ton of fictional books I have read over the years that would make the authors criminals by the words they have written. Books that have, in great detail, described how to kill someone, blow things up, or do any number of things that if actually done, would be criminal acts. Heck, why isn't John Ross in prison for his book Unintended Consequences?

Most "what if" types of discussions in relation to SHTF scenarios will be describing actions that would be considered as criminal acts if done prior to the actual SHTF incident.

So unless I have missed a post or three by andy that fits into the "coercion" or "collusion" categories, I do not recall reading anything posted by andy that meets that criteria.

But I am certain that someone will correct me if I am wrong about that. :)

Others in the thread are right but what you need to understand is that even with a note about you not being responsible for the content of other posters, there is a small catch 22 that you need to be aware of. If you refuse to be responsible for the content of the forums, you cannot copyright anything in those forums.

As for the legality, the FBI has taken the attitude that they don't care if you take responsibility or not, they are more than happy to lay the blame at your feet.

Tard has constantly promoted subversion of the Government, coersion of others to commit felonies, he's made public and private threats of bodily harm and death, and he's also encouraged others to commit acts of terrorism.

So be aware of the potential consequenses...

Mike

[Rich Z]

As for the legality, the FBI has taken the attitude that they don't care if you take responsibility or not, they are more than happy to lay the blame at your feet.

The FBI is perfectly welcome to visit here, just as anyone else is. Matter of fact, if they were interested in detecting people actively breaking the law, I think the last thing on earth they would want to do is to shut down a vehicle in order to accomplish that task.


If you refuse to be responsible for the content of the forums, you cannot copyright anything in those forums.

Like I should care? What in the world would I care about copyrighting anything here for anyway? Do you really think there is anything being posted here that is worth copyrighting?


So be aware of the potential consequenses...

I find it hard to imagine how I could care less....

[Hard Rock]

Hey, just sharing what I know from years of experience owning, admining and modding boards. Take it as you will... it's no skin off my back either way.

Mike

[Stillwater]

If he has posted all that, scans of the license / DD214, then I would have to take him at his word that he is John Davis. And reassess somewhat. He has the mind of a 15 year old in a 52 year old body. BTW, you got a link where I can see those scans?

DC

Yes, I do, along with several other people out here.

[.45 COLT]

Yes, I do, along with several other people out here.Well??????????????

DC

[Rich Z]

Hey, just sharing what I know from years of experience owning, admining and modding boards. Take it as you will... it's no skin off my back either way.

Mike

Mike, I set up my first message board back in 1997. Been running at least one ever since as OWNER. Never have been an admin or moderator for anyone else's site, though. Can't see any reason to do that when I could just as easily set up my own message board any time I want to. And I have checked into the legalities, liabilities, and responsibilities I am exposing myself to, which is only prudent whenever you have exposure to the public at large.

BTW, did you ever check out those IP addresses on those test posts I did in that forum I set you up as mod? I'm curious to see the results you can get.

Thanks.

[KJUN]

Yes, I do, along with several other people out here.

That's nivce. Is it some secret only the chosen few are priveleged enough to see?

KJ

[andy]

Just because YOU are scared ****less of Big Brother doesn't mean that everyone is as big a pussy as you are.

[Aslan]

Which is why you are so worried about parole (Isn't your parole officer part of Big Brother?).

Which is why you refuse to travel....

which is why you won't post pictures of your "friends" guns and gear....

and on and on and on....

Yes, some people are definately afraid of big brother....

:devil:

[.45 COLT]

That's nivce. Is it some secret only the chosen few are priveleged enough to see?

KJ
Must be. I've asked twice, now you, and still nothing. Looks like Andy isn't the only one here who's all talk.

DC

[Aslan]

I no longer have those scans, or I would be happy to forward them to you...

Bill (Stillwater) would be the person to ask for them.

:devil:

[.45 COLT]

He has been asked, three times the way I make it.

Stillwater said (in another thread):
The silence is deafening from NUTTY JOHN ... Seems like the silence from another source ain't creating too much of a roar either.

DC

[Hasher]

I have seen the scans. Heck it even included a library card and red center pass.

I have also personally talked with 3 people who knew him back in his 70's IPSC days. He is who he says he is.

YOu ever pay Milt Sparks back the money you stole Convict???

BTW he is now in Pagosa Springs, CO. Supposedly (I have not been able to verify this) is either married to or shacked up with some realestate chick who buys his ****e hook line and sinker.
\Hoep he does not give her any thing he might have contracted sbeing someones mary in the pen. :-punch:

[Stillwater]

NUTTY JOHN lives in Pagosa Springs, CO. He is married to a woman who runs, or works, at a realestate financial business. Her name is Pat Rydz.

I have a scan of the sheet from the Pagosa springs, CO, Sun newspaper, which reported on their "happy event." The paper published a picture of the blushing bride. HOOH Boy ...

I have other document scans, and information. However, I just don't give it out to everybody. Particularly those I don't know well. If that is a problem for some of you, take it to church and pray about it. You'll get relief there.

Some of the documents I have, still exist on the Internet. If you feel that you have, to have them, use your computer talents and search for them. That is how I found most, but not all of what I have.

Some of the things I have about NUTTY JOHN, the people whom gave them to me, asked me not to give them out to just anybody. In fact they have requested that I only use these things in certain ways, and I intend to keep my word, and do that.

NUTTY JOHN used to be in Southern California, and did "TRY" to do some SWPL shooting. Ken Hackathorne said he was a untalented shooter, and Jeff Cooper said, "that boy is a little off of plumb." NUTTY JOHN tried to attach himself like a leach, to both Hackathorne, and Cooper.

NUTTY JOHN conveniently posted Ken Hackathorne's phone number on the web. Boy, oh Boy, was Hackathorne pissed! I called Hackathorne, explaining where I for the phone number. During out conversation, we found out that we had met when Hackathorne was living in Southern California.

NUTTY John could not have done much shooting with the SWPL because he couldn't tell me who [Peter-the-Power-Meter was. There are some posters on this forum, including Hard Ball, who have seen Peter-the-Power-Meter.

The scans I found, and those I was given, allowed me to legally check out NUTTY JOHN'S arrest record, and his criminal record (public information). He has done a lot more than sell drugs and build supressors. You wouldn't like NUTTY JOHN'S criminal record.

If NUTTY JOHN irritates me enough, I just may make his criminal record available to interested people. If I were NUTTY JOHN, (damned glad I'm not) I would adopt a more pleasant demeanor, and a much lower profile.

However, NUTTY JOHN, isn't smart enough to do that! What I still do not completely understand is, If I were a person with the nasty criminal record NUTTY JOHN has, I do my best to get along with people. I would do my best to conceal such a nasty criminal record. I wouldn't be shooting my loud, criminal, mouth off, about guns and shooting.

NUTTY JOHN'S conceit, his giant ego, along with his abject craving for any kind of public attention, will eventually send him back to prison.

[Stillwater]

I have seen the scans. Heck it even included a library card and red center pass.

I have also personally talked with 3 people who knew him back in his 70's IPSC days. He is who he says he is.

YOu ever pay Milt Sparks back the money you stole Convict???

BTW he is now in Pagosa Springs, CO. Supposedly (I have not been able to verify this) is either married to or shacked up with some realestate chick who buys his ****e hook line and sinker.
\Hoep he does not give her any thing he might have contracted sbeing someones mary in the pen. :-punch:

Why don't you make it so that you can receive emails? You can always change it back.

[.45 COLT]

I have no doubt that John Melvin Davis is all of what you say he is, a total piece of garbage. The only doubt that I have is that Andy (Gunkid, Greer, The Man, etc) is really Davis. The mental age of Andy is somewhere around 13 to 15. If Davis had his development arrested and never progressed beyond that mental age, he would never been accepted in the Army. I was in the Army in that same time frame, and although men were badly needed, they never got that desperate. If somehow he had been accepted, he would have been quickly weeded out and given a General Discharge. Never would have made it beyond Basic.

Also, an ex-con on parole, with the mindset of Andy, would be violating parole multiple times daily. No way he could stay out of prison. I still think that Andy, along with all the other voices in his head, is some kid who, for whatever reason, is impersonating JMD.

DC

[Hasher]

Fixed. Now I can get Mail.

[KJUN]

So, it comes down to two mutual name callers expecting us to believe them without proof and disbelieve the other one who also doesn't offer up real proof, right?

Man, it feels like I'm in a room full of pouting second grade boys!
KJ

[Kent]

So he has a record. So what? He has done his time, thats the end of it. Evidently he is honoring the terms of his parole or he would be back in prison. Unless he is back doing the same things, why keep bringing this up? Because you hate him? Why waste all that energy hating someone you haven't even met. Why do you let him keep pulling your strings? If you don't like him, IGNORE him.

And giving personal info to "interested" people, who have NO BUSINESS to this info, sucks. Sounds dangerously close to cyberstalking to me. I reallly hope he sues your ass off.

[Hasher]

GK has tried ot get other to commit felonies like full auto, drug dealin, and cans for years on the net. Some time or another he is going to get one of them in trouble. Not to mention he stole from a well respected holster maker and now bad raps him all over the net.

[Kent]

GK has tried ot get other to commit felonies like full auto, drug dealin, and cans for years on the net. Some time or another he is going to get one of them in trouble. Not to mention he stole from a well respected holster maker and now bad raps him all over the net.

Then why is he not back in prison? Anyone dumb enough to brag about his 10" bbl "CAR with a can" (if he has one) should expect a visit from his parole officer, if not an outright raid on his house. Therefore, unless he posts pics of him with his CAR with a can, then I say he HAS NO SUCH WEAPON, or any other weapon.

I know about the bad raps, and his bad rep. If he is inciting others to commit felonies, at minimum he should be banned. But anyone with minimal intelligence should be able to see his BS for what it is (although he is capable of good posts too). As far as the alleged theft, that would get him thrown in prison also.

He is not responsible for getting someone in trouble with the law. No one is forcing anyone else to convert anything to full auto, or build a "can".
If I CHOOSE to do these things, it's on ME.

I see these as separate issues: personal info given on the net without his approval (suppose someone that hates you does this to you. Would you like it?) , and his posts. By my saying "you" I am NOT speaking about you specifically. You know who I am talking about.

[Aslan]

Well, Kent, you would be right, except it was GK himself that posted the stuff on the INTERNET. Doing so pretty much ended any reasonable expectation of privacy that would be afforded to most people.

Once he let that particular genie out of the bottle, that information is now in the public domain. So I don't know how you can say it is without his approval - he posted it in the FIRST place. (prison records ARE public domain)

As far as raids, etc. The wheels of Govt turn slowly until he does something stupid that makes him a priority. You have no idea of what is or is not happening in the background.

If you rip me off, and I don't press charges, you are still a theif, but you aren't going to jail.

You are free to say whatever you like about what you beleive he may or may not be in possesion of. (I tend to agree with you, that he does not have any of the things he likes to claim.)

He has suggested to at least one young man that they should sell drugs to pay for their guns, and how easy it would be to make an ilegal silencer. Maybe you are smart enough to understand the consequences, but what if it is a 14 yr old kid on the internet?

As far as good knowledge or good posts, I guess that's your opinion. I have noticed that when he is polite in his postings, he rarely gets any grief handed to him (it still happens, but not anywhere nearly as much as when he posts something completely stupid or hateful.)

He does make a lot of posts about blowing up the shuttle, oil tankers, poisoning food, wrecking the enconomy, etc. All of which I think should be enough to warrant a closer look at him by one or more agencies.

:devil:

[Kent]

I dont recall reading where he posted that personal info himself. Since he did, you have made a good point and I stand corrected. Doing that was dumb, dumb, dumb.

What I really dont understand is since he has posted these things (terrorist acts), why hasn't his parole been revoked? Inciting others to commit crimes is a crime, isn't it? As I understand it, parole revocation is a simple process.

Or, could he be doing this with the approval of some of the alphabet soup agencies? They just LOVE to entrap people.

As far as his good posts, I was referring to those posts that don't start with "hey dumbasses" or "you can't do what I can, dip****s!" etc. Some info is good, but not much.

[Stillwater]

I dont recall reading where he posted that personal info himself. Since he did, you have made a good point and I stand corrected. Doing that was dumb, dumb, dumb.

What I really dont understand is since he has posted these things (terrorist acts), why hasn't his parole been revoked? Inciting others to commit crimes is a crime, isn't it? As I understand it, parole revocation is a simple process.

Or, could he be doing this with the approval of some of the alphabet soup agencies? They just LOVE to entrap people.

As far as his good posts, I was referring to those posts that don't start with "hey dumbasses" or "you can't do what I can, dip****s!" etc. Some info is good, but not much.

The facat that NUTTY JOHN posted all of his personal information, in scans, and with other verbage has been posted in this website in several places.

Sooo, it looks like you were making an assumption, with out a comprehensive reading of the facts. A TYPICAL LIBERAL MISTAKE.

Any ones criminal record is fair game and in the public domain. the Federal Bureau of Prisons, has a website, with a search function. All you do is key in a name. If there is anything, it will show up!

Have I satisfied you ruffled feathers? Or, have I straightened your nose that was out of joint? You really owe it to yourself to learn a complete story before you start throwing accusations around. Smart people usually do that!

[Kent]

I admitted I was wrong about who FIRST posted gunkids info. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. My feathers aren't ruffled.

Still sounds like cyberstalking to me. It's malicious. Look up the definition yourself. And "liberal"? Moi? THe only thing liberal about me is my definition of "clean jeans". Got that? Good.

In going through your posts, you spend alot of time following gunkid around and baiting him, instead of contributing to the conversation in a more meaningful way. Why play into his hands like that? It's what he seems to want, and he must like it.

[Stillwater]

I admitted I was wrong about who FIRST posted gunkids info. I have no problem admitting when I am wrong. My feathers aren't ruffled.

[quote]Still sounds like cyberstalking to me. It's malicious.

Ask me if I care ... or, wait and watch what happens ...

Look up the definition yourself. And "liberal"? Moi? THe only thing liberal about me is my definition of "clean jeans". Got that? Good.

You sound SOFT on crime and criminals, so what else can be inferred?

In going through your posts, you spend alot of time following gunkid around and baiting him, instead of contributing to the conversation in a more meaningful way.

You do things your way, and I won't comment again. I will do things my way, and you can return the favor. Is that clear?

Why play into his hands like that? It's what he seems to want, and he must like it.

What you call playing into his hands, is something else entirely.

Since you seem to think your smart enough to figure out things, try to figure out what is happening. Although, if you think I care about what you think, or say, again your making a mistake. Is that clear?

There is a reason for everything I do. Some others out here know the reason. It will be apparent one of these days.

If something isn't your business, or, it is something you don't have a material stake in, leave it be. Just sit on the sidelines and learn something.

You seem to think that I am the only one that rides NUTTY JOHN'S ass. Get you glasses on, and read some of the other posters posts. You evidentially don't know NUTTY JOHN'S history from other websites, and what he has done to set the Internet world against him. Do some searches on other websites and see what he is really like. It's too bad that Liberty Front isn't still up. Then you could have had the pleasure of NUTTY JOHN introducing you Cannibalism, and other fine pastimes.

[.45 COLT]

The facat that NUTTY JOHN posted all of his personal information, in scans, and with other verbage has been posted in this website in several places.WHERE did he post this? Link? Or is it so supersecret that only YOU have the information? I still don't believe that Andy etal is the person he is claiming to be. As far as what he's posted on this website, anybody can claim anything. He's posted nothing here that even remotely resembles proof, just some name that may or may not be his.

DC

[Kent]

Look, Bill, do what you want. I really don't care. Hate is a cancer. It will eat you alive, do you really think gunkid cares that you hate him? Think he has lost any sleep?

Keep on hating if you want. Doesn't bother me.

[Garand]

Bill, I'm curious, that Federal Prisons web site can you post a link??

[Hasher]

Well kent meister I am glad we all have yoru permission to excersize or freedoms.

[Stillwater]

Bill, I'm curious, that Federal Prisons web site can you post a link??

Garand:
Here is the Federal Bureau of Prisons link. You have it in email also.


http://www.bop.gov/

[Stillwater]

Look, Bill, do what you want. I really don't care. Hate is a cancer. It will eat you alive, do you really think gunkid cares that you hate him? Think he has lost any sleep?

Keep on hating if you want. Doesn't bother me.

This one last post to you, and from now, I will be ignoring any other posts you direct to me.

You obvously have an exaggerated oinion of yourself. Nothing wrong with that, except you have become tedious, with you unsought advice and opinions.

Next, you do not seem to be able to read with coomprehension. I told you in my last post, that I have reasons, which make sense to me, for why I do some things. Real good reasons. Reasons that are none of your business.

You assume I hate, well so be it, except you're making a mistake. But, since you have your myopic mind made up, enjoy your self-rightous (self-raunchous?) opinion.

As I said before -- Ask me if I care!

[Stillwater]

WHERE did he post this? Link? Or is it so supersecret that only YOU have the information? I still don't believe that Andy etal is the person he is claiming to be. As far as what he's posted on this website, anybody can claim anything. He's posted nothing here that even remotely resembles proof, just some name that may or may not be his.

DC

Your wrong, NUTTY JOHN, aka John Melvin Davis, is who he claims to be, and he is a sociopathic, exconvict.

[krept]

lol

like I said before, you shouldn't get so exited man.

if he did something real to you that you need to get revenge for, remember it's a dish best served cold and you're keeping the mofo sizzling.

if he didn't do something personal to you, there could be all kinds of weird reasons why you're choosing to take it personally and get upset about it. I agree, whatever beef that's inbetween you two is you're biness, but you air out dirty laundry here for all to see, I can only speculate what's going on in your head with repeated references in caps to NUTTY JOHN. lol

[Hasher]

He is a serious sociopath that needs to be exposed for what he is.

[Stillwater]

He is a serious sociopath that needs to be exposed for what he is.

Hasher, you're one of the few here who understands why I dog, NUTTY JOHN.

There are many here, whom cannot read with comprehension. Their loss.

[Stillwater]

One other comment about NUTTY JOHN.

When a website has decided to tolerate NUTTY JOHN, or even give him hiw own forum, all NUTTY JOHN does is reply with vitriol and epithets. Ask Teuf!

[Rich Z]

Sheriff Stillwater hath spoken. Say Bill, just who exactly was it that pinned that badge to your chest and commanded you to chase gunkid all over the internet? Or was this a self-appointed task?

Acting like gunkid, even though it is directed at a lesser number of people, makes you resemble kin of his to unbiased viewers. Or are you having troubles with that level of "coomprehension"?

So just what IS your beef with John Davis that has saturated your soul with such loathing and hatred? And PLEASE, don't waste the wear and tear on your fingertips typing out a message disputing this assessment of you. You are ABSOLUTELY FILLED with hatred. And it shows in nearly every post you make. Watch, it will even boil over in your response to this message.... :-poke:

[krept]

if you guys genuinely believe that he's a sociopath, then how much better are you than making fun of someone with PTSD, mania, obsessive-compulsive disorder, etc.

Think about it. You swear the guy has mental problems, yet for some reason you treat him as if he's an equal... or superior threat that needs to be cut down a notch or two.

Yeah, when a country doesn't ban hate speech and flag burning, we'll that's a guilty nation, right? Oh... it's a little more complicated than this? I've heard that one from my bona-fide schizophrenic mother in law and guess what? The first thing she does when she can't ignore is respond with anger. It's all a bunch of hot air.

I'm not trying to change you and all the other guys that sound up for the lynching. Just bringing a little reason... rationality to the comments.

IF you THINK he's a SOCIOPATH... then you have to accept that it's a mental disorder and the psychologicool texts say it indeed is so... WHY do you continue to try to provoke him so and be insulting? Is that how you guys would treat an older big guy that's got Down's Syndrome because he's got Dad strength and claims he can beat the **** out of you?

Does it not fit the profile?

[Stillwater]

Sheriff Stillwater hath spoken. Say Bill, just who exactly was it that pinned that badge to your chest and commanded you to chase gunkid all over the internet? Or was this a self-appointed task?

Acting like gunkid, even though it is directed at a lesser number of people, makes you resemble kin of his to unbiased viewers. Or are you having troubles with that level of "coomprehension"?

So just what IS your beef with John Davis that has saturated your soul with such loathing and hatred? And PLEASE, don't waste the wear and tear on your fingertips typing out a message disputing this assessment of you. You are ABSOLUTELY FILLED with hatred. And it shows in nearly every post you make. Watch, it will even boil over in your response to this message.... :-poke:

Rich, I have told you a half of a dozen times. If you can't remember, maybe you should have not dropped so much acid.

If you don't like my reply -- ask me if I care.

[Stillwater]

This is for Richie-Poo our resident Social-Scientist -- NOT!

Is our resident TARD a Sociopath ... ? I Found this description of a sociopath online. It looks amazingly similiar to the TARD's behavior.

"Glibness/Superficial Charm

Language can be used without effort by them to confuse and convince their audience. Captivating storytellers that exude self-confidence, they can spin a web that intrigues others. Since they are persuasive, they have the capacity to destroy their critics verbally or emotionally."

Well, the TARD has NO apparent charm, but he THINKS he does.

"Manipulative and Conning"

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They dominate and humiliate their victims."

This fits the TARD.

"Grandiose Sense of Self"

Feels entitled to certain things as "their right." Craves adulation and attendance. Must be the center of attention with their own fantasies as the "spokesman for God," "enlightened," "leader of humankind," etc. Creates an us-versus-them mentality"

This fits the TARD.

"Pathological Lying"

Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and able to pass lie detector tests."

This fits the TARD.

"Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt"

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way."

This fits the TARD.

"Shallow Emotions"

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion, it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises."

This fits the TARD.

"Incapacity for Love"

While they talk about "God's love" they are unable to give or receive it. Since they do not believe in the genuineness of their followers' love, they are very harsh in testing it from their devotees and expect them to feel guilt for their failings. Expects unconditional surrender."

This fits the TARD.

"Need for Stimulation"

Living on the edge, yet testing the beliefs of their followers with bizarre rules, punishments and behaviors. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal."

This fits the TARD. If you count living on the edge of FANTASY. Threatening to kick someone's ass maybe?

"Callousness/Lack of Empathy"

Unable to emphasize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. Their skills are used to exploit, abuse and exert power. Since the follower cannot believe their leader would callously hurt them, they rationalize the behavior as necessary for their (or the group's) own "good" and deny the abuse. When devotees become aware of the exploitation it feels like a "spiritual rape" to them."

This fits the TARD.

"Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature"

Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others. The followers only see them as near perfect."

This fits the TARD like a glove.

"Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency"

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc."

This fits the TARD.

"Irresponsibility/Unreliability"

Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blame their followers or others outside their group. Blame reinforces passivity and obedience and produces guilt, shame, terror and conformity in the followers."

This fits the TARD.

"Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity"

Totalist leaders frequently practice promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts. This is usually kept hidden from all but the inner circle. Stringent sexual control of their followers, such as forced breakups and divorces, removal of children from parents, rules for dating, etc."

If possible, I'm sure the TARD would TRY it.

"Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle"

Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future. Many groups claim as their goal world-domination or other utopian promises. Great contrast between the leader's opulent lifestyle and the followers' impoverishment. Support by gifts and donations from the followers who are pressured to give through fear and guilt. Highly sensitive to their own pain and health."

Fits The TARD like a GLOVE.

"Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility"

Changes their image and that of the group as needed to avoid prosecution and to increase income and to recruit a range of members. Is able to adapt or relocate as needed to preserve the group. Can resurface later with a new name, a new front group and a new twist on the scam."

Hey TARD, how are the new fingerprints and plastic surgery?

"Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them.

They're all stupes, twits, pos, fos, etc.

"Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them"


You mean something IS wrong with the TARD?

"Authoritarian"


Definitely.

"Secretive"


Yes.

"Paranoid"


Is the TARD paranoid, or what? How about the TARD'S JJ paranoia?

"Often in difficulty with the law, seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired"

Like their own "columns"


How about their own forum?


"Conventional appearance"


Somewhat conventional, I would imagine.

"Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)"


This, sounds familiar.

"Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life"


TARD tries to, anyway.

"Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)"

Yes. As in, the people living on those places the TARD has said he would attack, might not even be the original owners. Self-justification.

"Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim"


Yes again.

"Incapable of real human attachment to another"


Sounds like the TARD.

"Unable to feel remorse or guilt"


NOTHING is ever the TARD's fault.

"Extreme narcissism and grandiose behavior."


Yes.

"May state readily that their goal is to rule the world"


TARD's post-apocalyptic world?

[ASPHALT COWBOY]

Damned if I didn't start something, wasn't what I was looking for,,, Damn...

[Stillwater]

Damned if I didn't start something, wasn't what I was looking for,,, Damn...

Thats right -- it's all your fault ...

[.45 COLT]

He is a serious sociopath that needs to be exposed for what he is.This assessment from someone who has spent the last seven years dogging Gunkid. And you claim that he's the one with a mental disorder?

Your wrong, NUTTY JOHN, aka John Melvin Davis, is who he claims to be, and he is a sociopathic, exconvict.I have no doubt that John Melvin Davis is exactly as you describe him. What I question is the "fact" that Andy is really John Melvin Davis. You claim "proof". Let's see it.

As far as some arguments about "protecting the intenet from Gunkid" go, Bull****. If somebody decides to take his advice and kills himself, give that person a posthumous Darwin Award and move on. The world would be a better place. Andy's advice is so far out and unbelieveable that only a true moron would follow it, someone who is just wasted space anyway.

Whether you know it or not, Andy's calling the tune and you're dancing. He's loving it and you're stewing in you own bile. Rather than thinking up new names to call him, wouldn't it be better to just ignore most of his crap? Maybe correct his posts once in a while when he spouts garbage but does so in an almost believeable manner.

Merry Christmas. :santa:

DC

[Rich Z]

Actually I think gunkid must be filled with compassion for these people here attacking him. Otherwise it would be child's play for him to give at least one of his detractors a grand mal seizure very easily by purposely driving his blood pressure up over safe limits. All I can say is this "tard sheriff" should be thanking his lucky stars that gunkid doesn't go on the offense and start pressing those hot buttons. :-poke:
:blowup01:

[Stillwater]

Actually I think gunkid must be filled with compassion for these people here attacking him. Otherwise it would be child's play for him to give at least one of his detractors a grand mal seizure very easily by purposely driving his blood pressure up over safe limits. All I can say is this "tard sheriff" should be thanking his lucky stars that gunkid doesn't go on the offense and start pressing those hot buttons. :-poke:
:blowup01:

Speaking as a person who has perfect blood pressure and cholesterol levels, heart problems will never happen.Though you, Rich, are getting you pants into a wad more, and more lately.

Me? All I do is laugh at you and your pet criminal, NUTTY JOHN. Can't you try to do a little better? Your snide remarks wouldn't even be any good in a BITCH SLAPPING contest.

Like NUTTY JOHN, you give yourself too much credit.

[Rich Z]

:laugh01: :laugh01: :laugh01:

[krept]

i'm surprised that even excites you enough to laugh at

[krept]

and this is for he-who-shall-remain-temporarily-nameless.

http://www.thegrillstoreandmore.com/image/products/big-pics/e-brand.jpg

hint: it's the fifth letter of the alphabet, and it's ferrous.

cheers

[Rich Z]

i'm surprised that even excites you enough to laugh at

Actually I find it all damned hilarious. Too bad gunkid doesn't realize the goldmine of entertainment at his disposal with his followers. Bill types things in so fast, obviously under stress, that his spelling just falls all apart in his hurry to submit his replies. He can't even take the time to proofread his typing he is in such a lather.

Bill, there is NOTHING you can say or do to get me to ban andy. There is NOTHING you can do or say to make me close down this site where andy CAN post as he likes. There is NOTHING you can do or say to make me get irritated or upset. Matter of fact, there is absolutely NOTHING you can make me do, period. You have absolutely NO influence here whatsoever. So why not just sit back and relax a bit? This sort of stress cannot be good for your health, you know.....

[Stillwater]

Actually I find it all damned hilarious. Too bad gunkid doesn't realize the goldmine of entertainment at his disposal with his followers. Bill types things in so fast, obviously under stress, that his spelling just falls all apart in his hurry to submit his replies. He can't even take the time to proofread his typing he is in such a lather.

Bill, there is NOTHING you can say or do to get me to ban andy. There is NOTHING you can do or say to make me close down this site where andy CAN post as he likes. There is NOTHING you can do or say to make me get irritated or upset. Matter of fact, there is absolutely NOTHING you can make me do, period. You have absolutely NO influence here whatsoever. So why not just sit back and relax a bit? This sort of stress cannot be good for your health, you know.....

You assume so much, with such little proof. Your paranoia must be to the bone. I haven't ever said, or asked, for you to ban anybody.

These are only assumptions on your part. And, I am in no "lather" to do anything. Another of your foolish assumptions.

Actually there is only one thing that I think you "SHOULD" do is turn the edit feature back on. You won't, which just shows how "henhouse" and "juvenile" you are.

You assume too much, you should set back, relax, avoid your baseless assumptions, which only affect you.

I don't want NUTTY JOHN banned. I want him to shoot his mouth off, which will eventually send him back to prison, where he belongs. See how the "BAN" assumption is wrong?

I know it is hard for you to read with any degree of real comprehension. And I know it is hard for you to understand, why I would like to see the NUTTY JOHN crriminal back in prison. Live with it, you can't stop it.

NUTTY JOHN is an ASSHOLE, NUTTY JOHN is a criminal. You seem to like both of those traits. So much so, that it makes several of us posting on this forum, wonder about the depth of you feelings.

The only person making mistakes about my reasons is you, and two of your syncophantic followers. Be sure to signal your turns for them.

You assume too much, Maybe you dropped too much acid during your hippie days. Something, has affected your reasoning.

What it all comes down to is a difference in opinion, about criminals, and criminal activities. You are soft on those activities, and ten or twenty others posting here are not.

You do a lot of cheap little stunts and are really trying to be "henhouse" in some other "petty ways." If you think any of your assumptions are correct, you're wrong. Sooo wrong. One thing you could, however, do is be more truthfull about me. Slim chance I know, but try it anyway.

If you don't like what I do -- go to church and pray about it -- it will make you feel better. However, I won't change until NUTTY JOHN acts decently.

As long as NUTTY JOHN does what he wants too, the profanity, the "C" word directed at female posters, and others. I am going to do what I want to. Fair enough? If you will remember, I told you that months ago, when you first started whining.

I stopped calling NUTTY JOHN the TARD, as you asked. Remember that? But, all of the cooperation was one way, all coming from me. You were supposed to make NUTTY JOHN act civil in his posts. However, you did not, or could not. So now, no cooperation, I will do what I want to do.

Now, when NUTTY JOHN stops his asshole of creation acts, I will moderate myself, afterwards, and probably so, will others. Their choice. When NUTTY JOHN falls off of the wagon, I and others, will start in on him again. Balls in your court, at least now you will have one! How you handle it, is up to you.

All of the NUTTY JOHN bashers, out here, have history with NUTTY JOHN on other boards. You have been told this, however, it doesn't seem to penetrate into you concsiousness. All of NUTTY JOHN'S actions have been going on for years. I think it all started somewhere in the fall of 2000 or there, about.

When you make posts toward me, you not actually posting to me, you're posting so others can see how NOBLE you are. It is an act as silly as your cheap shots and snide remarks. Read the above two paragraphs, then go sit in a cornor, suck your thumb, and sing kum-baya, if it will make you feel better.

[Rich Z]

You assume so much, with such little proof.....

I don't suppose anyone else has picked up on the irony of this statement...... :roflmao1:

But just for the sake of discussion, Bill, in a poll I ran a little while back concerning what you would do it guns were made illegal, did you or did you not state that you would IGNORE THE LAW?

http://www.armslocker.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=106

So what does that mean, exactly, Bill? Doesn't it mean you would violate the law? Become a criminal yourself? Maybe even an ex-con in time? Ever heard the phrase, "pot calling the kettle black"? So you are basically ragging on John Davis for being an ex-con, from what I can see, and you yourself would be an ex-con yourself if the opportunity presented itself. I believe John's line in the sand was about silencers, is that right? Your line in the sand is just something else. Two peas in a pod, from what I can see.

You assume so much, with such little proof. Your paranoia must be to the bone. I haven't ever said, or asked, for you to ban anybody.

These are only assumptions on your part. And, I am in no "lather" to do anything. Another of your foolish assumptions.

Oh really, Bill?

Private message from you on 06-19-2004, 04:10 PM:
I offered to tell you a way that the TARD could be legitimately fenced off from making offensive posts, that crap up a forum. But, you ignored the offer, as you ignore other questions and comments. You have shown a callous disregard for the posters. Now let us show you the same high regard.

This, with your other comments makes me think that you are either greedy for attentiion, or you are too spineless to do anything substantive about it. Which one of the two is it?

And, I see you are hiding behind the two laws mentioned, which seem to give you moral support for not acting decisively and as a leader.

Do you want to find out how to properly handle a social malcontent, such as the TARD, or are you just going to set like a turtle, with your head pulled in ?

In your case it looks like VENI [He came], VIDI [He saw], Weakly
[He concurred], with the TARD.

I know you don't like the word TARD, since you won't even give me the courtesy of listen to me, you're going to read it a lot.

Bill

Quotes from an email from you on August 03, 2004:
You put your own subjective spin on things, (Which I expected) which either prove that you read without comprehension, or it is almost like you prefer the TARD, and his lawlessness, to law abiding people? Is that so? Not that you would ever answer a straight forward question. You have been asked several, but you either ignore them, or you can't.

You wouldn't know what hate is, if it kicked you in the ass like a mule.

Let me state here and now I don't hate the TARD. I greatly dislike what he stands for, and evidentially, you don't.

1. The TARD stands for criminal activity. I do not! You must, because you let him post
that!

2. The TARD stands for disrespect for the law. I do not! You must, because you let him
post about that!

3. The TARD stands for the abuse of animals. I do hate that! You must, because you let
him post about that!

4. The TARD stands for the abuse of women. I do hate that! You must, because you let
him post about that!

5. You, by your support of the TARD, are aiding and abetting him, in his antisocial
activities. I do dislike that!

Can you read those five sentences and comprehend them?

I look at criminals as if they are the enemy, yet you give criminals aid and comfort! Why?

Why are you so protective of the TARD? Why the subjectivity? And why do you have an apparent bias (cleverly masked) toward the TARD, I wonder why! Are you an exconvict yourself? I don't know. You're unfailing support of the TARD, especially in letting him flout usual website norms and mores, says volumes.


From an email from Bill Stillwater on October 25, 2004:
Rich:
It is interesting that you would think the problem with Armslocker is the forum members fault. It is YOUR fault, as I pointed out to you when I left. You let the TARD post his invective, undisturbed, except for some small slaps. In fact many of us thought you supported him, which we still think is so.

Ban the TARD, and your troubles will go away. Blaming other people, only points out your lack of leadership. Or, lack of intestional fortitude!

Bill


Quote from an email from Bill Stillwater dated October 27, 2004:
Since you won't shut the TARD'S nasty mouth -- Don't complain at what is said to him. It is after all your lack of leadership that cuses this - Bill


Nope never did ask me to ban anyone, or even imply it, did you Bill. I guess I must have dreamed all that one night..... :laugh01:

Keep working on that memory thing, Bill. Obviously it needs some work. :bird:

Actually there is only one thing that I think you "SHOULD" do is turn the edit feature back on. You won't, which just shows how "henhouse" and "juvenile" you are.

You have asked me this quite a few times, Bill. Found a few posts on this site that you made that are portraying you in your true colors and you want to "touch them up"?

[Hasher]

Nice of you to make private conversations and communications public.

I would expect more from teh moderaator/owner.

But then you are obviously a fan/proponent of gunkid and it is showing through.

[Stillwater]

Rich:
since you have a problem with reading comprehension, I will use one of your examples to prove yo have a problem with the english language.

[quote=Stillwater]

Ban the TARD, and your troubles will go away. Blaming other people, only points out your lack of leadership. Or, lack of intestional fortitude!

Bill
[quote]

Notice it says BAN the TARD, and your troubles go away! It doesn't ask, tell, or advise you to ban the tard. It merely illustrates one way, to make your troubles go away. Not a request, not advice, not a demand. It merely illustrates an opinion. What is your problem with understanding the written language?

I am begining to think you troubles are deeper than a minor problem with the language, right Rich? I think you are so obsessed with protecting the TARD that you have let any contrary comment cloud your reasoning.

[Stillwater]

You have asked me this quite a few times, Bill. Found a few posts on this site that you made that are portraying you in your true colors and you want to "touch them up"?

What a dumb, paranoid geek, you are Rich! I merely want to correct misspellings as I post. I wouldn't want to go back through posts and do anything else. But, have your little mind game, as you become more than a little paranoid?

Your increasing load of paranoia is becoming more obvious. But as I said, enjoy it, it belongs to only you ...

[Kent]

>>The only person making mistakes about my reasons is you, and two of your syncophantic followers. Be sure to signal your turns for them.<<

Master Rich, tell me how to respond to this......

[Stillwater]

>>The only person making mistakes about my reasons is you, and two of your syncophantic followers. Be sure to signal your turns for them.<<

Master Rich, tell me how to respond to this......

From the Asssaultweb survival forum - Kent speaking out of both sides of his mouth -- today!

Kent
Junior Member
Member # 10159

posted December 24, 2004 11:46
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You gotta be kidding.

Go find Gunkid and ask the tard. I am SURE he will "enlighten you".

What an assclown
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[krept]

I think it's a "if you are not with me, you are with my enemy" philosophy. I don't agree with this, but I accept it and understand where it's coming from.

My jabs and such were all intended in good humor (like the "iron-e" I posted above), to stimulate thought. I never intended anyone to take the stuff I said personally and it looks like things are getting a little too personal. I apologize. For what it's worth no offense was intended.

[RIKA]

Seems like everyone has their feelings out on their shoulder this time of year. Not a good thing. Good cheer, glad tidings and all that.

RIKA

[Rich Z]

Gee, Bill, adding even more to your ever growing "Hate List"? :rofl:

I think krept hit the nail on the head with your philosophy:
I think it's a "if you are not with me, you are with my enemy" philosophy.

Bill, why are you even here? You obviously have other message boards to haunt, so what keeps you coming back here? Answer that one honestly, and I think maybe you will be on the road to recognizing your problem. :idea:

Oh and Mr. Hasher, if you believe for one instant that anything you send over the internet is private, you have a lot to learn. BTW, kind of curious that both you and Stillwater happen to have the same AOL ISP...... But then again, I have noticed quite a few of these sorts of "coincidences". Me thinks Bill's army of supporters isn't as grandiose as he would like us to believe. Isn't it Bill? Or should I say "Bills"? :laugh:

[Kent]

I NEVER SAID I was sticking up for gunkid. I think his posts suck, for the most part. I have never said any differently.

And, Yes, that was me on assault web. What you forgot, conviently I am sure, is that the poster wanted to know the best cuts for human meat. Unlike you, I don't change names to try and build up some "invisible army" LOL.

Reply to Raider: BUT HE STARTED IT ;)

[RIKA]

Reply to Raider: BUT HE STARTED IT ;)

Kent, I'm not taking sides against anyone. In fact I've been accused many times of donning my purple tights and leotard and shouting "Can't we just get along" after singing a rendition of Barney's song. :D

I hate to see people I consider friends fight among themselves. But ... men being men, they are going to have serious disagreements sometimes and I try as much as possible to keep my big mouth shut, though I often fail.

RIKA

[Kent]

Kent, I'm not taking sides against anyone. In fact I've been accused many times of donning my purple tights and leotard and shouting "Can't we just get along" after singing a rendition of Barney's song. :D

RIKA

Interesting mind picture :)

None of this is personal, on my part anyway. Life is too short for that nonsense.

Merry Christmas to you and yours

[Rich Z]

Which is exactly why I take the stance I am about all of this. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

None of this means anything anyway. So why get your panties in a bunch over it? If some guys want to pound the piss out of someone else, go for it. But don't get your liquid in a lather because I won't join in with you. It is not taking sides if I think that both sides are acting idiotic. :argue:

[Hasher]

sorry to disapoint you there mr board owner but I hav enever met still water nor am I him. Soory but you are barking up the wrong tree there.

I gaurentee some others here know me (and my horrible spelling ) from other boards.

[Stillwater]

sorry to disapoint you there mr board owner but I hav enever met still water nor am I him. Soory but you are barking up the wrong tree there.

I gaurentee some others here know me (and my horrible spelling ) from other boards.

Rich knows the difference between you, and I hasher. Rich is just trying to be cute ...

[John in AR]

None of this means anything anyway. So why get your panties in a bunch over it? If some guys want to pound the piss out of someone else, go for it. But don't get your liquid in a lather because I won't join in with you. It is not taking sides if I think that both sides are acting idiotic.


Exactly: “None of this means anything anyway”

Godallmighty, we’re basically a bunch of strangers, unable to see each other, talking (some prefer shouting) through the food-tray slots in our respective cells, trying to decide who’s who, and who’s what.

All I can think is, “Who cares?”

If a man comes into my cell and starts wailing on me, it’s my business. But as long as he doesn’t physically impact me, and just starts yelling thru the slot about how great he is, and how he could kick my ass with a “multi-phase-super-ninja-bitchslap”, what do I really care…?

It’s the internet, people. It ain’t the real world; and it certainly isn't worth getting all worked up over. I vote we just have a beer & get over it.

[Terry G]

I'm with John in AR. I have taken plenty of swipes at JD when he got too ridiculous, but I'm not going to make a crusade out of it. It seems there is a lot more going on here than an arguement over some ex-con that likes to blow hot air and irritate people. I've even been asked to pull some official strings to have action taken. That's not gonna happen. This internet battle is being taken way to seriously. Let's go, John. I'm buying.

[brass hammer]

john-ar,terry! man, you guys are right!


i didn't know the LEVEL this thread went to till tonite.

what i don't like is ol' boy[mister160] ranting about shooting ME/YOU in the chest
with a firearm, and subversive crap,like tanker trucks, bridges, trains, planes

you catch my drift!




THANKS.