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at 6 and 8 ft, with just my walking stick. Crap like that doesn't mean that the handgun is worth a crap. Just means the guy got the jump on a couple of typical lames, that's all.
Hard Ball
05-10-2005, 03:20 PM
at 6 and 8 ft, with just my walking stick. Crap like that doesn't mean that the handgun is worth a crap. Just means the guy got the jump on a couple of typical lames, that's all.
And how many times have you done this in real life against real men with real guns?in
Rhino
05-10-2005, 05:16 PM
I have a scar on my left arm from a time I "IN THE REAL WORLD" let my bravado override my instinct. I intervened in a rape in an ally and got shot for my trouble. am I sorry I did it? NO! the rape did not occur. would I have done it different in retrospect yes.
Andy anytime you wanna bring a sick to a gunfight lemme know:-)
Rhino
mrostov
05-10-2005, 05:26 PM
couple of typical lames
You mean like an over-confident, inexperienced, out of shape, aging fat man with weak ankles and coke bottle glasses?
Magnum88C
05-10-2005, 06:27 PM
That's ok, I DID take out 3 dope pushers with my bare hands (hey, they initiated, wasn't my choice). Like typical dopers with stagnant mud for brains they didn't even draw their weapons.
So much for "the criminal elite".
krept
05-10-2005, 06:53 PM
I was at 7-11 on 48th street and Van Buren last night and a drunk, shirtless cholo comes in and grabs 2 40oz beers and drops one right in front of me. shatters, mess all over the place. i grab my sauce and get in line. he checks out and turns around and gives me the stinkeye. I just ignored him and he left.
Aslan
05-10-2005, 07:08 PM
at 6 and 8 ft, with just my walking stick. Crap like that doesn't mean that the handgun is worth a crap. Just means the guy got the jump on a couple of typical lames, that's all.
Is this the 3-sided non-existing weak (based on your specs) walking stick that you claim gives you super ninja powers?
Nevermind that we have discussed this fantasy weapon of yours many times in the past, nevermind you don't actually have this weapon.
You would be shot and killed.
Only an overconfident fool brings a stick to a gun fight.
Given the knee and back problems you've stated you have (in the past) I doubt you would even be able to connect with the first one before being shot by both of them.
nice fantasy though.
:devil:
Terry G
05-10-2005, 07:15 PM
at 6 and 8 ft, with just my walking stick. Crap like that doesn't mean that the handgun is worth a crap. Just means the guy got the jump on a couple of typical lames, that's all.I think he could do it. But Andy, be careful, those blind guy's usually carry canes of their own.
This reminds me of the guys in high school who would brag about having sex. The one's who did it the most, talked about it the least.
Hasher
05-10-2005, 08:13 PM
That the walking stick you filed to bring with you when you chickened out on meeting me in Durango coward kid?
Rhino
05-12-2005, 12:26 PM
I have a walking stick that I would feel confident with in a fight but not a gunfight. It is made by cold steel
It has a heavy knob on the end and a 20" cruciform blade inside as well as a carpon fiber bottom to parry with.
No Andy i dont slash with it like YOU would with a foil (Still laughing about that) it is thrust and parry.
Rhino
John in AR
05-13-2005, 12:58 PM
No Andy i dont slash with it like YOU would with a foil (Still laughing about that) it is thrust and parry.
Rhino
"Slash" with a fencing foil...?
Rhino
05-13-2005, 01:21 PM
Andy was talking about slashing someones thigh with a foil, again showing his infinite weapon wisdom:-)
Rhino
Wylycoyte
05-13-2005, 01:37 PM
Ta daaaaaa!
http://www.armslocker.com/forums/showpost.php?p=136865&postcount=34
gripper
05-13-2005, 08:40 PM
I like that Cold Steel stick....alas,I reside in Massachussetts.They won't allow that to be shipped here.I usually get my with a 4 inch blade,and on occasion my old Blackthorn walkingh stick( at least when out running with the dog).Balance on my right,(my dog heels on my left)and the dog loves it. I swear,she knows when I reach for that stick whther or not she's even able to see me.Back in my Lowell days,while working a job in Lawrence,I had someone sic their dog on me while running with mine.I kept the offending dog away without hurting him ,just by using the stick in spear/bayonet fashion. The @sshole objected strenuously.HIM,I did hurt.WTF,I like dogs.....
Hard Ball
05-13-2006, 01:45 PM
"You mean like an over-confident, inexperienced, out of shape, aging fat man with weak ankles and coke bottle glasses?"
Don't forget his famous bad back.
Aslan
05-13-2006, 05:44 PM
I think you forgot about the bulging disks...something about hauling porta pottys if I remember correctly.
:devil:
I can take out 2 punks at 6 and 8 ft, with just my walking stick.
HAH! Thats nothing. I can start a fire by rubbing a Boy Scout and a Girl Scout together.
RIKA :nyah:
Magnum88C
05-13-2006, 07:40 PM
[QUOTE=gripper]I like that Cold Steel stick....alas,I reside in Massachussetts.They won't allow that to be shipped here.[QUOTE]
Don't undeerestimate the damage you can do with a standard walking cane, you don't need a sword cane.
Aslan
05-13-2006, 07:51 PM
And round is a much better shape for a staff type weapon than triangular.
Take a triangle you have three vertices and a lot of wide flat surfaces. Plenty of places to deflect. And only three points of focused attack. Now draw a cricle around that same triangle - notice an infinite number of striking points and no single large flat surface to deflect on.
The triangle walking stick (short staff) is another one of his fantasy ideas that sounds good until you actually analyze it. I'll stick with more traditional staff weapons, thank you.
:devil:
Coyote
05-15-2006, 04:29 AM
Based on Melvins specs, the 3 sided walking stick cannot exist. Somehow, it supposed to be hollow bodied, triangular, AND be threaded in several spots so that it can be broken down - I don't have the faintest idea how you thread something that is both triangular and hollow, since you can't "trim" the corners on the end you want to thread until it is cylindrical.
He also said that there should be a wire or cord running on the inside so that when you break it down, it folds up neatly without the pieces rattling around, with the cord running up through the head of the stick and secured by a bead. Problem with that is that he ALSO said that the head should be detachable so that it can be thrown at someone. How are you going to throw the head at someone if its stuck on a cord?? :crazy1:
HAH! Thats nothing. I can start a fire by rubbing a Boy Scout and a Girl Scout together.
Don't do it, they'll enjoy it too much! Think of those poor kids... :nyah:
gripper
05-15-2006, 05:48 PM
Yes Mag,you are right about stcks and canes being quite decisive when used properly.ALthough I never studied FMA as a primary art,a lot of knife and stick work was folded into the mix I accumulated over the years....and YES;I do have some experience using whatever was handy on people.
I think what is neat about the City Stick is the utility that the "scabbard" portion of the stick provides if you have drawn and not opted for a "hand and a half" grip.Makes a nice impact tool to balance off the sharp pointy in the other fist.The longer blade would require some adjustment in technique(compared to what I am used to),and practice with it would always be a good idea.
As a matter of fact,that recalls my Dos Pares runs,i.e.:running carious distances with two foot sticks(weighted or otherwise) in your hands. as you run;alternate between saber and outboard grips.You gotta pay attention to your footwork,hips,thumbs and elbows( good way to get some functional 'cage up " training).It has the root movements for everything from knife work ,to hooks&uppercuts.And,it beats the hell out of you(individual mileage will vary) working everything from your back & shoulder ,to your grip. Do NOT lift weights on the day previous or after such training,as you will get reaquainted with that "ohg $hit,what did i do to myself" feeling.
carguy
06-12-2006, 05:45 PM
And round is a much better shape for a staff type weapon than triangular.
Take a triangle you have three vertices and a lot of wide flat surfaces. Plenty of places to deflect. And only three points of focused attack. Now draw a cricle around that same triangle - notice an infinite number of striking points and no single large flat surface to deflect on.
The triangle walking stick (short staff) is another one of his fantasy ideas that sounds good until you actually analyze it. I'll stick with more traditional staff weapons, thank you.
:devil:
it sure could be IF the guy had a gun, but not beyond ft if he doesn't. the "trainers" want nothing to do with trying to teach people to move REALLY fast at grappling type ranges, gun in hand, much less ccw draw like that. Also, there's very little to teach about it, and almost none of them are any good at such things. So they take your money to jerk you off at ranges and exercises that might have a bit of meaning to a swat cop, but not to a civilian.
gripper
06-12-2006, 05:53 PM
I DO agree that many people(until recently) seemed to neglect their clinch range skills and speed at H2H.It i slogical to also apply the work to getting a knife or a gun into play.
Aslan
06-13-2006, 11:49 AM
That's why finding a good school is important, and why you should avoid the macDojo schools where it is belts for bucks.
I don't care what style or discipline you study - if you look closely you will find elements of all styles in each style. It is the school and the instructor that matters.
:devil:
carguy
06-13-2006, 03:05 PM
at 6 and 8 ft, with just my walking stick. Crap like that doesn't mean that the handgun is worth a crap. Just means the guy got the jump on a couple of typical lames, that's all.
That's stupid Barney, how are things in Mayberry.
gripper
06-13-2006, 08:48 PM
ASlan,you are definitely right about some movement porinciple sturning up in just about all martial disciplines.What I seem to have boticed RE commonality seems to be hip dominant ,forward movement.Half turns,cornering& full circle type moves (like you referenced earlier inanother posts-acceleration building power).I'm not a grappler or a BJJ type;that said ,working out on occasion with some of the kids who are into the art;an uppercut and an underhook have a lot in common.Many blocking ,caging&guarding motions can be strikes or turned to sweeps,passes;traps and hooks(grappling variety-not mine as a striker).Breath control and an internal focus on what you are doing while not being oblivious to your environment is critical,both form a physical,energy saving and power as well as a tactical poin tof view.
SOme are skillful,some are willful;th ebest of them are both.Some times;toughness and muscle memory can save your bacon ( will over skill);other timesit can run yon your energetic @ss into a trap.
And the most importantpoint that shows up in the best of them (regardless of scholl/art)....never quit,never not train/never think you know all there is to know or have reached your physical peak.
Andy, the name calling outside of the RR just earned you 3 more days in the RR.
When you return, how about addressing Coyote's concerns?
gripper
06-18-2006, 04:17 PM
Just wondering KJUN...who was Andy adressing when he got RR'd??
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