Field Assembly

[DaRkWoLf]

This isnt a shooting drill, just kind of a fun little thing to play around with. I didnt notice any activity going on here, so figured I might as well post this fun little bit. A few months back I was extremely bored and the recollection of some one saying "if you teach a 7 year old to assemble an M16 blind he'll know it forever and in the most adverse circumstances" was stuck in my head, so I got the 1911 and started seeing how fast i could put it back together without sight.

No ammo is needed, in fact; keep it away. Handguns, shotguns, or rifles will work (just say what you used); but if it 100% needs a tool to field strip that would be important to have as well (i dont count 1911 barrel bushing tools as esential personally). Other than that, an opaque pillowcase or a 100% dark room (bathroom with no lights on and no window or something similar) will be more than sufficient. A stopwatch is also good, making timing a challenge.

One pretty much just field strips and reassembles the gun in as short of a time as possible and no way to see anything. One can be really creative with this; laying on ones back and doing it, playing find the parts with a friend who takes it apart and scatters them in a small area, doing it all while under a bed (if one can fit under ones bed) where space is constricted and loosing parts underoneself is annoying, etc. Cleaning the thing in the same conditions is also an added fun.

Pretty much just a short thing to do. Ill post some new results between today and tommorow, ill get dad to clock me and get a picture of my insanity.

[Coyote]

I have played at this with my lee enfield and my inglis. I don't time it, I just do it so that I know the feel of my guns in and out.

[RIKA]

One of my standards is to be able to field strip and reassemble my Br's and handguns blindfolded (eyes shut).

RIKA

[andy]

I've never understood why this is valued. If it's dark, no way am I risking the loss of a gun part, etc, by disassembling the gun. Since I'd never be without a spare gun, what's the rush? Unless dunked in salt water, why clean it? You're certainly not going to SHOOT it enough for it to need cleaning. Any decent gun will go many thousands of rds without cleaning. Since you can't carry that much ammo, it aint going to happen.

[RIKA]

Andy, your ignorance of firearms care is laughable but entirely in line with what I have come to expect from you. Maybe you should send D A Albright over to post.

RIKA

[tuna]

23 Seconds to remove the barrels on my double and put them back on!
No, I'm not digging into the guts of the action, blindfolded or with sight.
Yes, that was cheezy as hell.
OK, I'll try it with my 870 later on.

[Aslan]

I've never understood why this is valued. If it's dark, no way am I risking the loss of a gun part, etc, by disassembling the gun. Since I'd never be without a spare gun, what's the rush? Unless dunked in salt water, why clean it? You're certainly not going to SHOOT it enough for it to need cleaning. Any decent gun will go many thousands of rds without cleaning. Since you can't carry that much ammo, it aint going to happen.

Well, those who have actually spent any real time in the woods with a weapon know why cleaning is necessary and important, even if you have not fired the gun.

Given the gear you plan to use, you'll be needing to clean your weapons fairly regularly.

This is the kind of comment that just underscores how little time you actually have in the field with a weapon. Those 1/2 day FTX's don't give you any sort of idea of what it's really like. You need to spend a week or two living out of your SHTF gear and see how clean your guns stay, even if you never fire them.

Never be without a spare gun? You're going to carry two pistols AND two rifles if SHTF? Wow, you're the one who usually puts everyone down if they carry a spare pistol.

You know, like having a center fire pistol and a .22 - you're going to carry two center fires?

Ok Sparky.

Looks like now you're just throwing out crap for the sake of throwing it out.

:devil:

[tuna]

Two years ago as I was heading to my deer stand in the dark I took a header into a puddle and plugged the barrel with mud. Knowing how to disassemble in the dark let me take the barrel out, turn it into a mud blow gun so I could pull a handkerchief tied to paracord through the barrel and clean it out. Could have used a flashlight, but didn't need one since I knew how to get the barrel off and on in the dark. Couple minutes and I was back in business. Practice pays off.

[Aslan]

Two years ago as I was heading to my deer stand in the dark I took a header into a puddle and plugged the barrel with mud. Knowing how to disassemble in the dark let me take the barrel out, turn it into a mud blow gun so I could pull a handkerchief tied to paracord through the barrel and clean it out. Could have used a flashlight, but didn't need one since I knew how to get the barrel off and on in the dark. Couple minutes and I was back in business. Practice pays off.

given how Andy claims he'll only be moving in the dark or sticking to heavy cover, he'd do well to listen to you. But, since he already knows everything...

:devil:

[John in AR]

...Since I'd never be without a spare gun...
I doubt that's 100% accurate; jmo.

Unless dunked in salt water, why clean it?
I've never dunked a gun in salt water in my life, but I have had to clean some. Why is that, I wonder...

You're certainly not going to SHOOT it enough for it to need cleaning.
You certainly can if your gun's an AR; just the nature of the beast.

Any decent gun will go many thousands of rds without cleaning.
You may get "1000s of rounds" thru an AR in one session without disassembly-cleaning, if you lube the foo out of it during the session. But shoot a hundred or two rounds, especially of full-on 5.56 milspec and then keep it for a week out in the elements, where the crud has time to settle, dry, harden, and attract moisture. It WILL need cleaning to be functional. I've carried AR's for years, from Colt, Bushmaster, and Olympic; true of all of them.

Since you can't carry that much ammo, it aint going to happen.
"Thousands", no. But "hundreds" (see above), ubetcha. :cool:

[DaRkWoLf]

Or some condoms and a rubber band (ive done that with the 870 duck hunting).

Theres many reasons one may need to disassemble a weapon, cleaning is the most frequent, but equipment failure, the AR-15 and particularly the CAR-15s frequent activity, is a more critical concern.

[tuna]

Yeah, I usually tape the muzzle (I save my condoms for my activities where I'm not alone) - this time I didn't. **** happens, we all forget sometimes - or the tape could fall off, or you drop the gun after shooting it while you're fumbling to put the tape back on. If you're too stupid and lazy to be familiar enough with your rifle to clean it when you NEED to, well just more chlorine in the gene pool.

[RIKA]

Seems like a child's small balloon would work well as a muzzle cover ... or is that too fragile.

RIKA

[tuna]

I hope we're still talking about guns here Rika.....

I like tape since I usually keep a few feet wrapped around my small flashlight - always have a chunk of tape and makes biting the light easier on the teeth.

[RIKA]

:D

RIKA

[tuna]

OK, here's my real times for a Remington 870 shotgun.

1:07 to remove barrel, forearm and bolt assembly and put back together.
3:08 to do the above but also take out and put back the trigger group.

I don't think I'd ever take it down to the trigger group without being able to see, if it was broke that bad - well, that's why the H&R is in the trunk.

[Mad Mike]

When will he ever learn...? :dgrin: :dgrin: :dgrin: