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krept
12-14-2005, 12:02 PM
http://www.jamesmcadam.co.uk/portfolio_html/sb_table.html

http://www.jamesmcadam.co.uk/images%20_scenarios/sb-table-no-man.jpg

http://www.jamesmcadam.co.uk/images%20_scenarios/shield_club_stand.jpg

It is reported that 50% of people in London are worried about security and sleep with some form of self-defence to hand, for use against intruders.

The 'Safe Bedside Table' has a removable leg that acts as a club and a top that doubles as a shield for self-defence. This is for people who are willing to take on an intruder, providing an extra sense of security whilst in bed.


http://www.jamesmcadam.co.uk/images%20_scenarios/safe_BST_grey-man.jpg

http://www.jamesmcadam.co.uk/images%20_scenarios/startled_table_shot.jpg

I don't know whether to :laugh01: or :bawling:

On the other hand, that guy does have some interesting ideas...

cheers

RIKA
12-14-2005, 12:11 PM
Seems like a darn good idea to me since the Brits have had everything else defensive ripped from them. God help the home defender who cracks a skull keeping his family safe; he will go to prison. Bet it won't be long before tables are declared illegal.

RIKA

Aslan
12-14-2005, 12:13 PM
That's why they are known as subjects, and we are known as citizens...

They have really screwed themselves up over there on self-defense. It's going to get a lot uglier there before it ever has a chance of getting better.

:devil:

Aslan
12-14-2005, 12:15 PM
looking at the how the table support for the shield is against the guy's arm, right at the wrist - he's in for a real shock if someone lands a good solid blow on the shield.

:devil:

Rich Z
12-14-2005, 02:53 PM
Yeah, right........... Like someone waking from a dead sleep is going to be able to take that kluge apart and get in a defensive posture in the few seconds it takes for someone to cross the room and slit his throat. Hell, just the time it would take to pull a club to the rear to get a good swing out of it could cost you dearly.

I can't see paying good money for assisted suicide.

T. Daves
12-14-2005, 11:09 PM
Only a Brit would bring a table to a gun fight!

gripper
12-15-2005, 08:22 PM
Out of necessity comes invention....

tuna
12-15-2005, 09:02 PM
I think it is just plain stupid. This ranks right up there with the assault wheelbarrow.

a) Just how sturdy is the table to begin with - it will either suck as a table, or it won't come apart when you need it
b) How easy is it going to be to take all the crap off of the table (if it will hold anything) in order to get it into action
c) The already mentioned support against the wrist on the shield
d) What is a shield for? Is this for jousting? Has someone been playing too much dungeons and dragons?
e) If you use the shield (still can't get over some twit outfitting himself with a freaking shield - what's next, chain mail PJs), you loose the ability to use the club as a thrusting weapon
f) Someone is actually going to buy this and think they are truly the knight of their castle

Are baseball bats illegal in England now? Cricket bats? How about a hammer?

OOOH - I thought of the next idea: a phone with a spiked handset, so when the goblin comes you can take the phone, call 911 and then swing the phone by the cord and you have a mace (or morning star - I always get that mixed up). Except for being sure to destroy your walls and the back of your head, I don't see how anything could possibly go wrong with THAT idea.

RIKA
12-15-2005, 09:28 PM
I want a shoe shiv like Rosa Klebb had. Now that would be cool.

RIKA

krept
12-16-2005, 12:48 AM
LOFL @ the posts. bwaHAHAHAHHAHA

+1,000,000,000000000000

cutter
12-08-2007, 01:54 AM
A mace has a fixed head. A morning star has a length of chain or cord to add velocity to the head. If we're going to travel into the realm of early middle ages weaponry, I think I would choose the pike or lucern hammer. A short or bastard sword would be a good choice too.

I read an article early this year about Brits developing a fondness for crossbows. It's slow on a follow up shot but lethal if you manage to place your first one.

spurrit
12-08-2007, 04:08 AM
I think it is just plain stupid. This ranks right up there with the assault wheelbarrow.

a) Just how sturdy is the table to begin with - it will either suck as a table, or it won't come apart when you need it
b) How easy is it going to be to take all the crap off of the table (if it will hold anything) in order to get it into action
c) The already mentioned support against the wrist on the shield
d) What is a shield for? Is this for jousting? Has someone been playing too much dungeons and dragons?
e) If you use the shield (still can't get over some twit outfitting himself with a freaking shield - what's next, chain mail PJs), you loose the ability to use the club as a thrusting weapon
f) Someone is actually going to buy this and think they are truly the knight of their castle

Are baseball bats illegal in England now? Cricket bats? How about a hammer?

OOOH - I thought of the next idea: a phone with a spiked handset, so when the goblin comes you can take the phone, call 911 and then swing the phone by the cord and you have a mace (or morning star - I always get that mixed up). Except for being sure to destroy your walls and the back of your head, I don't see how anything could possibly go wrong with THAT idea.


Well, seeing as how stabbings and slashings are at an all time high, a shield and club don't sound like a bad way to go, since you can't have a gun.

DblTap
12-09-2007, 11:31 AM
looking at the how the table support for the shield is against the guy's arm, right at the wrist - he's in for a real shock if someone lands a good solid blow on the shield.

I saw that too. He should shave off that part that touches his wrist. If that is part of the stabilization for the table they should make it part of the club. All in all I really like the idea. If nothing else it could be your last backup.

neolithic hunter
12-09-2007, 08:26 PM
i thought it was against the law in the commonwealth to defend yourself from thieves that are there only to take your property. i understand that this is due to them not being a threat to your health. i have noticed in the british papers lately that the criminal has the right to defend themselfs if they feel threatened by the property owner though. you do releize that defending your property is a colonial idea gone astray, after all property is not worth a life. ya right, i think we should be able to shoot for trespass alone, much less thieft of property. oh well life goes on in the commonwealth. :cool:

gripper
12-13-2007, 12:37 PM
I think they will even prosecute you for harsh language directed against a poor,struggling mugger/home invader;one wimply tring to be a more productive waste of air in the oppressive legacy of the Empire....oKm Icant keep a straight face anymore. The Brits gov't had decided to assume the former position of the French in the world (thank God for Sarkozy!).
BTW ,I 'd prefer something like a Barong ,but with a "hand & a half " grip;similar to what was on the old Bastard sword....short enough for tight confines but able to shift between one and two handed grips.Maybe if the Woodsman's Pal folks would make one of their long handled ones with an extended point(or if I ground off the hook &turned it into an extended tip Wharne type blade?) it could fill a niche (or a place in my kit).

Gothic_Gregg
12-17-2007, 12:18 PM
Yeh, I've seen this before, I even had a go at building it....
Let's not get into how that went, suffice to say it broke from the first hit...

It's a good idea as a last ditch defence, but it doesn't really work out in reality.

RorionP
02-02-2008, 02:02 PM
That is so funny. Cheers to the people for thinking out of the box. Very sad that they had too. Heres the new and improved version for tactical assault teams.
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http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee36/RedDogSix/table.jpg

Terry G
02-18-2008, 04:58 PM
What Great Britain needs is a "Castle" or "Domain" law. They'll never get it of course. Most states in the U.S. have law's that say if an intruder is in your home you can use deadly force even if he's not armed. Some modify it by stating you can use deadly force after a reasonable assumtion that the intruder means you harm. Threats, gestures, or brandishing a weapon would fit the criteria. The attitude of the British never fails to astonish me. During WWII the government was screaming for weapons for it's citizens (sorry, SUBJECTS), to defend the empire with. After the war, it disarmed everyone that was trying to protect themselves. You can get arrested even for using non-lethal force against someone attacking you in your own home? I can't believe that's true. Are that far off the deep end?

cutter
02-18-2008, 07:15 PM
Yeah, and they didn't even return the weapons. It was Lend/Lease, not Give.

SB13
02-29-2008, 01:03 PM
Sucks to be a SERF .