Basic stuff...

[Aslan]

Blocks vs Parry...

I'm generally of the strikes as blocks mentality - where my strike deflects or interferes with your strike.

However, parries are highly effective as a transition to a kick, punch, etc.
Parries likewise have the advantage of not requiring as much force as a strike.

Here's an example (contrived) of what I'm getting at.

A - attacker
Y - you

A: attempts a punch with his right.
Y: parry with your right while stepping forward to your left on a 45 to A
Y: as you plant after the step, pivot your feet and hips while striking A with your left.

Very simple, but hopefully illustrative - the parry allows you to move quickly and set up where the attacker is at a real disadvantage his body is now positioned such that he can't effectively hit you and he should be off balance enough where he can't kick either.

(I'd try to continue the momentum at this point and try to step behind him and maybe collapse a leg with a thrust kick behind his knee...)

Parries are also useful for creating openings, especially against weapons or physically stronger opponents too.

Just a random thought to bring some discussion back to this forum...

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[gripper]

That kind of dovetails with my experience and training ....if all you can see are heands and arms(he's caged up or trhowing a storm at you)than hit /smash up those hands and arms,whether its the blocks-as -strikes(which I agree with)you advise;or deliberately striking at the attacking extremities.People often get disheatened when not only can they not hit you,but their brachial/bicep areas,backs of their hands,other places that cause pain get hit past the point of pain and into the lever of damage.Sorta like someone finding out that kicking into an elbow can be exactly like kicking into a sharp pointy rock.OWWWW!

[T. Daves]

Not into fighting, havn't had to do much of it. It seems to me that if you are attacked then the point of the exercise is to stop it, hitting any part of the body that presents itself

[Aslan]

Not into fighting, havn't had to do much of it. It seems to me that if you are attacked then the point of the exercise is to stop it, hitting any part of the body that presents itself

Sometimes you need to create the opening to strike yourself. Sometimes it's given to you.

The (simple) point here was to show one way to create such an opening.

Many people have never really practiced moving and striking, especially moving at angles to your attacker.

You can certainly attack their center-line, but using angles increases the likelihood of creating a defect in their posture that you can exploit.

This becomes more critical if your attacker is bigger, stronger, faster, etc than you are.

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[krept]

as far as basic stuff... one thing i incorporate into my training is related to the dynamic sphere approach that i learned in aikido. you stand and without moving your feet, strike the areas where you can... i.e. a target susceptable to a hook with the right hand could be hit with a backfist if your balance is on the other side of their centerline. Same concept as above goes with an elbow when the target is closer within your sphere of influence.

in applying this to a swinging bag, bouncing target, mobile partner, etc. I have found that this approach has helped with my ability to recognize what would be a viable target versus instead taking the opportunity to increase or decrease my distance relative to the threat. for example, there may be a high target at my 10 oclock and i'm standing left foot forward... instead of trying to jab a backfist out with the intention of hitting the face with a halfassed punch, i might just flick it out as a distraction and reestablish my rear foot at 3 oclock to get a better angle and not have my lead leg in so much jeopardy.

really tough stuff for me to put into words without it sounding like preplanned kata. the emphasis is on balance while knowing the extent of my striking range and the limit of my footwork (how long it would take me to reset at a different angle).

[Aslan]

learning to move, learning when to move, when not to move are concepts that sound really simple but are harder in practice.

We used to do a drill where you'd stand in a corner of a room and your opponent stands in front of you. You're positioned so you are facing on the 45 degree angle so that the two walls are by each arm. You basically spar from this position. You are severely limited in your ability to move. The idea is to re-enforce understanding what the reach is you have with each of your weapons - hands, feet - what kicks, blocks, and strikes are available.

Each bit is really simple in of itself, it's the stringing it all together and flowing fluidly that is where the challenges really are.

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[snipe]

We used to do a drill where you'd stand in a corner of a room and your opponent stands in front of you. You're positioned so you are facing on the 45 degree angle so that the two walls are by each arm. You basically spar from this position. You are severely limited in your ability to move. The idea is to re-enforce understanding what the reach is you have with each of your weapons - hands, feet - what kicks, blocks, and strikes are available.


Sounds like a pretty good exercise. Our unit has started training for FIBUA situations, crowd control and arm to arms combat. We've tried general grappling techniques, and the latest training we did involved Krav Maga.
Exercises included a partner walking towards you like a zombie, and you had to parry him, walk up and face him hile his back still towards you. Was a dumb exercise if you look at it, but it really changes your habit of using the wrong arm to parry.
The RCMP 2 minutes away from my unit have a krav maga course once or twice a week. I've been thinking for a while of registering but am too busy. Will see during summertime.

[andy]

If you are truly fast and brutal, you don't need much in the way of more than the basics. Assholes have no training or discipline, which means they have no real ability, either. That's what makes them assholes. Like clowns here, they THINK that they know it all.

[andy]

If you are fighting a trained man, it's cause YOU are the asshole.

[krept]

hahahah

actually there are a TON of real dickheads that are taking mixed martial arts now... some kind of weird crossover from professional wrestling. Even 5 years or so ago there was a racist gang... the Devil Dogs that were training and pretty damn skilled. They really ****ed this kid up bad. After that, they were kicked out of the gym ran by the same guy that does Rage in the Cage matches.

unfortunately with the lack of etiquette today... i.e. the lack of a student/sensei relationship and more of a "hey, coach!" mentality, there is no respect for the common person, much less their elders. Only their betters.

[andy]

Still bet they didn't have much real ability. That's why they have to run in packs.

[gripper]

No arguments here. Most of the geniune badasses I knew were kind of understated...the "grey men" you did not really notice until somehow you got heir full attention.
I have had to deal with "trained @ssholes";some fairly recently.Most (but not all) are not much unless somehow they have a "fanbase" to help them along.
I don't know if it is the lack of "character" or the developement that occurs when their is a proper sifu/sensei to student relationship,butI personally found them to often fold when things did not immediately begin to go the way they planned.Other times I was feeling put upon;and showed my own lack of character by punishing them within clinch range.

[Aslan]

If you are truly fast and brutal, you don't need much in the way of more than the basics. Assholes have no training or discipline, which means they have no real ability, either. That's what makes them assholes. Like clowns here, they THINK that they know it all.

Just remember that you, too, are one of the clowns here. And you've repeatedly demonstrated the level of discipline that you have.

(It's that whole glass house thing...)

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[Wylycoyte]

Nonsense. He's proven that he's more willing to march around on a toilet than anyone else here.

[Aslan]

Nonsense. He's proven that he's more willing to march around on a toilet than anyone else here.

Which could explain why he thinks his kicks are so deadly...

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[snipe]

hahahah

actually there are a TON of real dickheads that are taking mixed martial arts now... some kind of weird crossover from professional wrestling. Even 5 years or so ago there was a racist gang... the Devil Dogs that were training and pretty damn skilled. They really ****ed this kid up bad. After that, they were kicked out of the gym ran by the same guy that does Rage in the Cage matches.

unfortunately with the lack of etiquette today... i.e. the lack of a student/sensei relationship and more of a "hey, coach!" mentality, there is no respect for the common person, much less their elders. Only their betters.

I totally agree with the etiquette problem. I can't speak for everyone (since all countries/states/provinces ahve different cultures and education systems. Like here in quebec in public schools, students call teachers by their first names instead of sir or miss. And parents have been a little bit too careless about their children. In a streetfight, there isn't any loyalty, but someone who had enormous etiquette in his training will be able to keep his cool and not make as many mistakes as someone who is not as serious.