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KJUN
04-11-2006, 05:46 PM
Is the CZ-24 (VZ-24) just a standard large ring mauser? Should most of the German K98 sporter parts (barrels, stocks, etc.) fit on the CZ-24's?

KJ

neolithic hunter
04-12-2006, 07:29 PM
Is the CZ-24 (VZ-24) just a standard large ring mauser? Should most of the German K98 sporter parts (barrels, stocks, etc.) fit on the CZ-24's?

KJ


oh no one of them i don't have. if i remeber this correctly the cz 24 is based on the 22 fn action. it's a large ring intermediate length action. i mite be wrong and it's full length but i don't think so. when it comes to barrels any large ring barrel should fit it. as for stocks if you want to put wood on it there are a lot of stock makers that supply stocks for the intermediate large ring action. the only really short large ring action were the mexican mausers they are about 1/2 to 3/4 shorter than a standard large ring 98. if it's a intermediat length action your choice of parts deminishes some what, but usually most sporter parts for the 96 mausers will fit them. like trigger guards and floor plates. like i have a 22 yugo thats an intermediate length and used a spanish 95 trigger guard on it, because it was already setup with a hinged floor plate. the only barreling problem you will run into is what caliber can you chamber to that uses a 62mm or shorter case. it's really not long enough for a 64mm or 06 length case. my 22 yugo i rebarreled it to 338-08 so i could stick to the shorter case. :cool:

RIKA
04-12-2006, 07:32 PM
The VZ 24 action used to be favored by custom makers for its size, strength and quality.

RIKA

KJUN
04-13-2006, 10:35 AM
Thanks.... Here's the deal. I think there is a difference between sporterizing and "Bubba-izing" a rifle. I don't like the idea of bubbaizing any tool since it "usually" results in something less useful than what it was to begin with. "Destroying" any good tool - whether it has historical significance or not - should be discouraged as wasteful. However, sporterizing, TO ME, is taking an old rifle, in this case, and modernizing it so it is a MORE useful tool in today's society (or for the individual user), but could be brought back to, or at least ALMOST brought back to, the original, historic, condition. This doesn't involve permanent changes in many cases. I only say this to avoid the "Bubba-izing" arguments. Right or wrong, that is my personal beliefs. Everyone CAN dso what they want wioth things they buy, but that doesn't mean they SHOULD do certain things.

Now that I've offended BOTH sides of the Bubba/original configuration camps with my post, let me move on the the meaning of my post...lol.

I recognize that rebarrelling a rifle to a new chamber is somewhere between my definitions of sporterizing and bubbaizing that I list above. If I had a good C&R rifle, the most I would do is restore it (like that awesome looking '03 RIKA let us see recently in image form) or change the stock/sites to something better for me. Changing the stock/sites would not permanantly alter the gun in any way. Nobody should mind that too much....lol.

However, one with a worn out (or rusted or whatever) barrel is ripe for a barrel conversion to my eyes. This gives an old gun a new chance at life. Call it a boob lift or something. (Sure, they aren't real, but my hands are still real!) Along those same lines, it doesn't necessarily have to be to the original 8mm chambering since it is a new barrel and all. I don't see much of a reason in personally rechambering it to something common like a .308-class weapon or a .30-06-class weapon. Both can be purchased for less than the cost of converting an old mauser, and aren't that much better than the 8mm. in other words, I'd chamber it in the original form and just buy a new .308 if that is what I wanted.

I used to rechamber on to .458 Win Mag, but I don't see a need for more than ONE of those rifles. In terms of cost, I could probably pick one up VERY lightly used for not much more than I'd spend on making one up. Not much incentive to rebarrel an old action then, is there? I might still do it one day, but it has fallen from my "want to do list." However, I WOULD like to have a couple of .338 Excalibur rifles. This isn't a round you can buy in a factory rifle, so it is make one up myself or do without. My wife and I would BOTH like one, so that makes buying the necessary tools to build one up more reasonable, I think. Granted, I'd like to be able to point to a rifle and say "I did that" and to learn what there is to learn from the process, too! Win-win situation. ...especially since I might be able to buy some VZ-24 actions with worn out barrels for a fair price locally. FINGERS CROSSED.

Anyway, I just wrote all that to help ME get my thoughts straight....

Terry G
04-14-2006, 11:09 PM
KJUN, from what I could gather all the metal parts of the vz24 and the kar98 should be interchangeable, not so the wood. DIfferent sights would require hand fitted upper handguards, same with the stock. Hope you enjoy these great old rifles, I do. My rough looking 24/47 outshoots my M48A's. Go figure.