Getting back into fighting shape

[Aslan]

Well, I've started training again...too much time behind a computer and not enough time getting my butt kicked by 18-20 yr olds in the Dojo.

First couple of sparring drills were pretty pathetic, even for me. (don't even ask me about the PT side of things either!)

Bottom line, if we don't use it, we do lose it. (only a delusional fool would think otherwise - didn't we used have one of those somewhere?)

Oh yeah, I plan on being at least semi-regular around here. (thanks to good old bran and prune juice)

[RIKA]

We're glad that you're back with us. Welcome home!

RIKA

[DblTap]

I've started training too. For Beerfest in Germany. I figure if I increase my consumption from 3 beers a night to 6 by the time October gets here I will be ready to drink with the Germans. Plus the calisthenics for this type of training isn't very hard on your body. Mostly just beerobics.

[BigEd63]

I've started training too. For Beerfest in Germany. I figure if I increase my consumption from 3 beers a night to 6 by the time October gets here I will be ready to drink with the Germans. Plus the calisthenics for this type of training isn't very hard on your body. Mostly just beerobics.

Since you don't show your location I have no idea what beer you are drinking but most American stuff can be like water when compared to most European brews. So you may need to convert from cans to kegs. :dgrin:

[DblTap]

I live in Montana and brew my own beer. It is much stronger and better tasting than almost all the beer that I can buy. I use kegs too but they are the smaller 5 gallon soda kegs and not the 15 gallon beer kegs. I only brew 5 gallons at a time (about 48 bottles) so I don't need anything bigger. Plus the soda kegs are cheaper and easier to use.

[Gunfixr]

I've always wanted to brew my own beer.

[Aslan]

only here, can a discussion on getting back into shape become a thread on beer.

MMMMM, beer....

[Gunfixr]

You know, it is said that your friends will enrich you and make you who you are. I have noticed that when your friends are on an internet gun forum, it tends to be a downward spiral. :dgrin:

[krept]

I've been uncorking my head for the past month or so and plan on getting back into training soon. Haven't had a drop to drink in over two weeks. Knee injury to heal up first then back to being reborn, hard.

[BigEd63]

I live in Montana and brew my own beer. It is much stronger and better tasting than almost all the beer that I can buy. I use kegs too but they are the smaller 5 gallon soda kegs and not the 15 gallon beer kegs. I only brew 5 gallons at a time (about 48 bottles) so I don't need anything bigger. Plus the soda kegs are cheaper and easier to use.


Cool! A friend of mine used to be into brewing his own stuff.

He couldn't sell of course but we did gift each other items back and forth like bottles and raw materials.

Ever make any raw honey mead?

OK back on subject. My current job lets me have an average of 30mins between shuttle runs so I spend 1hr a night total, for now, walking the halls of the building I'm in. Don't have to worry about traffic or paying for gym fees.

I also got a pretty good reference for a place to get some hand to hand training that is not a belt mill.

[Aslan]

I've been uncorking my head for the past month or so and plan on getting back into training soon. Haven't had a drop to drink in over two weeks. Knee injury to heal up first then back to being reborn, hard.

To show how bad I let things go, I've lost 10lbs in a month of training. (which never should have been added on in the first place)

I'm still sucking wind, and my timing while sparring is off....

What's you do to your knee? hopefully something relatively easy to recover from.

How's the little one?

[Magnum88C]

Good post Aslan.

I've been considering getting back in the game. I've had enough of the multiple foot injuries and way too much OT lately. Getting back into life now.
Except I'm getting somewhat back into shape before going to a dojo. I'd at least like to do 100 burpees without puking first.

Getting back into form hitting the heavy bag.

[Coyote]

Aslan, are you training in a particular discipline?

[Aslan]

Right now, I'm learning ISSHINRYU, for a change of pace. I have to do a lot of emptying my cup (i.e. unlearning) to learn how this system does things.

I figure it will just be one more tool to draw from, as well as being a good source of exercise.

[DblTap]

I'm learning ISSHINRYU, for a change of pace. I have to do a lot of emptying my cup

I'm learning BEERINYU. I'm also doing a lot of emptying my cup. But then I refill. I keep doing that hoping it is a good source of exercise.

[Aslan]

the 12 oz curl, the exercise of champions.

[DblTap]

It's the exercise of champions? Wow, I thought anyone could do it. My grandma was right, I am special. Secretly I knew it.

[vaguard]

Ever make any raw honey mead?
That sounds interesting, I must say I've never tasted that nor would I even know it if I walked past it.

As for getting back in shape... well I've got a long way to go, I can always start by walking to the refrig??? No seriously, As soon as the heat drops down to under 100 I can get back to some bike riding. Good exercise and it gives you something to look at.

[krept]

I strained my meniscus screwing around in the backyard, they thought it was a tear but the MRI came back negative. They drew about 60ccs of fluid out (a lot) and some of it had high white blood cells so they put me on a low level antibiotic as well. Should be good to go in a week or so.

Son is finally doing very well. He had respiratory issues earlier in the year that have now thankfully cleared up. Not having the stress of worrying about his breathing is a BIG bonus.

I just wish a local MA place would open up here (Goodyear) because that would provide a lot better framework for training. There are two Mc Dojos out here that I know of and that doesn't cut it. I just don't understand... we are right off the I-10 corridor and there is a big LE community (they have their own tac team incase MCSO isn't available) plus Luke AFB. you'd think it would be a prime opportunity given the prevalence of good places downtown, north of PHX, Tempe, Mesa, etc.

cheers

[Magnum88C]

There just aren't a lot of people that want to get into hardcore fighting. A few karate classes at a "McDojo" or the Y and they're happy.

The only one close to me is like that.

The one I first learned at was all about self defense. Kind of a mixed martial art, mainly from aikido and Muay Thai, and lots of weapons, including guns -- a lot of the moves were designed to get the attacker away as quick as possible to deploy a knife or gun.

I tried out the local dojo this friday -- "open dojo" night. They SAY they teach jiujitsu (SP?) but people stayed away from me when I was on the heavy bag, and the only comment I got was on the way out by one of the instructors: "Umm, that was awfully aggressice, wasn't it?"

Yeah.

Wait 'til I've lost 40 pounds and am back in shape (including my standard fitness routine).

Aggressive. . .I felt like I was slow as molasses and was going to have a heart attack.

Not sure exactly what they really teach there.

[BigEd63]

...........I tried out the local dojo this friday -- "open dojo" night. They SAY they teach jiujitsu (SP?) but people stayed away from me when I was on the heavy bag, and the only comment I got was on the way out by one of the instructors: "Umm, that was awfully aggressice, wasn't it?"

...........Not sure exactly what they really teach there.


Probably one of those wussed down courses for those who want to "defend" themselves but not realy "hurt" anyone.

Or as I call it Limp-Wang-Fu.

Where that crap comes from is all the liberal dorks watching some movie or TV show with some dude with a triple decker black belt either tripping or putting a hold on "The Bad Guy(s)" but not beating the stuffing out of them. And of course no one is ever hurt. :rolleyes:

They think that junk is reality so they demand it from their local dojos. And as mentioned there are plenty of belt mills that will go along with it.

[Aslan]

There's another component that I ran into trying to find a place to work out - the lawyers and insurance folks have gotten involved.

Several places told me their insurance does not allow for anything other than tournament style sparring.

I know from first hand, that tournament stuff teaches really bad habits - the stuff that would get you hurt in a real fight....

[gripper]

Aslan, let me know how the PT is going;and what form it takes for you.I stay active physically,but I am working around a few old injuries these days( no outdoor runs for a while). want to get back in to martial training myself;but a few other matters require a bit of attention first.

[Aslan]

Doing a lot of aerobic type stuff, lots of sit ups, crunches, push ups, kicks and punches into a bag, good ol' fashioned sparring (really lets you know you're sucking wind).

Of course, one of the first things I do is injure myself (I think I broke a toe). I can walk, but it is painful when moved in certain directions...My own fault for rushing and not using proper technique. Oh well, it isn't stopping me from training.

We were doing a drill where four people take pads and surround you - one to the front, one to the back, and on either side of you. For a minute you kick the pads, in any order you like. After you kick a pad, the person holding it changes their orientation. They may be facing you with the pad, or facing left or right. You use the appropriate kick for the direction they are facing: Front kick, side kick, roundhouse, back kick, etc.

A minute doesn't sound like much, but you can make it a hard workout if you push it. (I guess I'm stupid and tend to push it as hard as I can.) Usually, I can barely hold the pad for the next guy after my turn - at least until the second guy. Though I am able to push even harder with each iteration.

You only get out of training what you put into it. I truly believe you fight like you train. If you train half-assed, you will fight half-assed.

I give myself about another month before I will be happy with where I'm at, but still not where I want to be.

[gripper]

Foot injuries in general are more debilitating than most folks realize. Exen for the likes of me who started out boxing( other martial disciplines followed).
Lately ;I go to the gym and start with resisted cardio on the cross trainer,go to an empty room and do bodyweight (Hindu squat,pushup and bridge combos).Then,either some iropnwork ,or if a class is not in session;the punching bags(water filled at this place-I miss my sand bags and Mooks).
I get out of here today,I will try a hill run before I go to work to evaluate the foot.I HATE indoor cardio- I wind up feeling like a gerbil on a wheel.One that can hit, but a rodent nonetheless.

[gripper]

I still agree with you on training ,Aslan....inverse ratio of sweat/training and blood(yours)/fighting.

[brass hammer]

latley, I'VE hit the 'iron-pile' but last week I felt a 'slight-strain' in the lower back 'comin'-on![trust-me gang! as 'IFFIN' I DON'T KNOW MYSELF.], so,I crank-up THE air-chamber to #75[from the slovenley low-rated BRASS HAMMER comfort-zone of#35] well [3] three days of 'feared' sudden back-seizure PASSED!,,,,and,,,I sawed clean through a 1"&1/4 schedule 40 steel piping[today] armed with ONLY A $4.00 [made in china]HACKSAW!!!,,,[mind-you in 110degree heat / on my hands-n-knees/ exhaust fan from A.C.unit 'blowin' on me!!!,,,AND ONLY STOPPED[3] TIMES[30 SECONDS] TO RE-WIND!!!,,,,as my "vapor-agent"badge was a motivating FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH, HAR! :dgrin:

that, and drinkin' MORE than a couple of times a WEEK,,,,IS FER' THE YOUNG!


:beer: :roflmao1: :wavey:

[BigEd63]

I HATE indoor cardio- I wind up feeling like a gerbil on a wheel.One that can hit, but a rodent nonetheless.

Yep, at work I can walk the hallways in a big lap but it still feels like being a rat in a maze.

[DblTap]

Today is brew day. I only have about 4 gallons of Munich porter/stout left to last two weeks until my next batch is ready to drink. At this rate I don't think I will be ready for Oktoberfest in Germany until next year. Luckily I've had no injuries while brewing or drinking this year. I think it is because of all the serious practice.

[gripper]

As my designated drinker,you ought to train regularly with decent whiskey,Royal Navy Pusser's Rum and the odd hit of Absinthe.That way those of us who no longer can shall encourage you who can!Hoist a few for me!

[DblTap]

Whoa, easy!! I am strictly a beer drinker. I only drink whiskey, rum, and brandy on special occasions. I can drink lots of beer and not push it over the edge but I haven't been able to find that "line" with the hard stuff. Just when I think I am there it is too late and I am way over. I have friends that drink whiskey every night but I cannot keep up with them, not even close. I can match them beer for beer though.

By the way, isn't Absinthe fatal for a certain % of the population? Are you trying to get rid of me?? It won't be that easy...

[DaRkWoLf]

By the way, isn't Absinthe fatal for a certain % of the population? Are you trying to get rid of me?? It won't be that easy...

Naw, its not fatal unless one is crusing for alcohol poisoning in the first place. It is, however, psychoactive thanks to sandalwood. The real stuff is illegal to specifically sell in America, though it can be and is imported from France and Belgium and is legal to possess.

Also, good on you for not being prone to hard liquor.

[Aslan]

Good thing, 'cause I have a bottle in the cupboard....saving for a special occasion.
Don't know what one, but I'm confident one will come up....

[gripper]

Aslan, I am trying to balance out body weight exercise with some functional iron work.Usually flowwing 30-40 minutes of resisted cardio (until my foot is safe for running outdoors again), with bagwork replacing the ironpile 2-3 times a week.Any ideas for teaching myself the handstand ( and handstand pushup) again???

[brass hammer]

Today is brew day. I only have about 4 gallons of Munich porter/stout left to last two weeks until my next batch is ready to drink. At this rate I don't think I will be ready for Oktoberfest in Germany until next year. Luckily I've had no injuries while brewing or drinking this year. I think it is because of all the serious practice.


YOU IS DA' BOMB! 'double-tap'![HAR! and ALL this time I'VE been lead to believe YOU only liked to 'squezze' the trigger FAST!!!"SILLY-****IN'-B-HAMMER"!!!}


therfore, 'IFFIN' I EVER find myself WITH AN 'extra' HEAD-SHOT DEER-VINISON/MEXICAN-SCALP,,,I'LL 'SWING-BYE'! :dgrin:

[DblTap]

I had a dream last night that I shot a small moose and had to get it in the back of the truck quick. I think it either wasn't moose season or I didn't have a moose tag. Do you think this dream is telling me I'm drinking my beer "pre-maturely"? Should I let it age a little longer?

I'm not sure about the Mexican scalp but I've had venison before. It was pretty good but not nearly as good as Elk.

[Aslan]

Aslan, I am trying to balance out body weight exercise with some functional iron work.Usually flowwing 30-40 minutes of resisted cardio (until my foot is safe for running outdoors again), with bagwork replacing the ironpile 2-3 times a week.Any ideas for teaching myself the handstand ( and handstand pushup) again???

I hate handstand pushups. (I dislike regular pushups too, but They do work really well...)
:dgrin:

If you have some help, doing them against a wall with someone holding your legs might be the way to go.

I'm afraid I don't do them enough to offer any advice on this one.

Sorry bro!

[Aslan]

Well, I knew it was too good to be true....I was doing some heavy sparing with one of the students about to get their blackbelt.

I came in with a front snap kick, they blocked with a really nice elbow strike, and my foot is broken. (6 weeks or more of wearing "das boot" as I affectionately call the walking cast I'm in.)

[RIKA]

Ouch! Broken bones are no fun. Hoping for a fast and pain free (as much as possible) recovery for you soon.

RIKA

[BigEd63]

Yeooooch! That is bad. I've had a broken ankle and bruised foot bones before.

I hope it heals well and quickly for you.

[DblTap]

I burned myself a little bit while I was sparging my grains. I'm ok now though. 170 degree water is hot. I think sparging is less dangerous than sparring, maybe you should try that instead. I still haven't broken anything while brewing or drinking beer, except 2 glass thermometers. I switched to metal now so I won't even be breaking those.

[Aslan]

one of those things, where I thought, "Wow! that was a really good block!, oh crap, my foot hurts, but wow that was a perfect block...I wish I had made a block like that earlier."

I seem to remember someone once claiming their kicks could not be blocked....oh well, it's not important.

[gripper]

OWWWW! Aslan ,you have my sympathy....I used to do the same thing to hands within clinch range..nothing like pulling down your elbows(whuile still keeping the cage up) to discourage (and punish!) low blow attempts.There is a reason most Thais do not kick "up" ,but mostly forward and/or down.They regard incopmmihng weapons as potential targets as well.uch of their front kicking with the ball of the foot is like the forward thrust kick with the heel( you may have referred to it as a "Dragon Stomp").Basically they like to put glute/hamstring and hip into everything.

[Aslan]

oh yeah, I knew better, but I saw an opening and well he reacted better than I thought he would...

otherwise I would have come in with a mid-cresent...

[gripper]

Aslan, well you are in "active recovery/rehab" I am guessing that you will find ways to strengthen and maintain the machine from other angles.
Hate pushups/chinups???guess what you'll no doubt get into.....hmmm,,,rope climbs and rope grip pull up/dip variations are in your future.

[Aslan]

Pushups and crunches are the order of the day....

[gripper]

My iwn morning ( early AM) was spent in non-stop-go mode for 65 minutes.For cardio/endurance, the old life fitness cross trainer ,manual setting( resistance-17 out of 20) for 40 minutes ,hard. This was followed by four rounds of pushups( fingers& flat hand;feet up on bench), table makers and sit-ups( 50,40 and 100). Then 5 sets of Cuban press( think upright-row and shoulder press in same motion,lioke clean and press) with 75 pound barbell. Then, jump in shower, drive to NH -DMV....I AM A NH RESIDENT :beer: :beer: FOR ALL OF YOU WHO CAN DRINK for me_THIS MEANS YOU BRASSHAMMER :beer: :laugh: :laugh: