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Gunners762
06-17-2008, 06:55 PM
Gun Control Group Braces for Court Loss


'We've Lost the Battle on What the 2nd Amendment Means,' Brady Campaign Head Says


by TEDDY DAVIS
June 12, 2008 The nation's leading gun control group filed a "friend of the court" brief back in January defending the gun ban in Washington, D.C. But with the Supreme Court poised to hand down a potentially landmark decision in the case, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence fully expects to lose.
"We've lost the battle on what the Second Amendment means," campaign president Paul Helmke told ABC News. "Seventy-five percent of the public thinks it's an individual right. Why are we arguing a theory anymore? We are concerned about what we can do practically."
While the Brady Campaign is waving the white flag in the long-running debate on whether the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to bear arms or merely a state's right to assemble a militia, it is hoping that losing the "legal battle" will eventually lead to gun control advocates winning the "political war."
"We're expecting D.C. to lose the case," Helmke said. "But this could be good from the standpoint of the political-legislative side."
The D.C. ban prohibits residents from keeping handguns inside their homes and requires that lawfully registered guns, such as shotguns, be locked and unloaded when kept at home.
If the Supreme Court strikes down the D.C. gun ban, the Brady Campaign is hoping that it will reorient gun control groups around more limited measures that will be harder to cast as infringements of the Second Amendment.
"The NRA [National Rifle Association] won't have this fear factor," Helmke said.
Brady Campaign Attorney Dennis Henigan said there are multiple gun control measures that would not run afoul of a Supreme Court decision striking down the D.C. gun ban.
"Universal background checks don't affect the right of self-defense in the home. Banning a super dangerous class of weapons, like assault weapons, also would not adversely affect the right of self-defense in the home," said Henigan. "Curbing large volume sales doesn't affect self-defense in the home."
The Brady Campaign expects pro-gun groups to use the Supreme Court's decision in the DC case to challenge a gun ban in Chicago, the major city whose gun laws come closest to the nation's capital.
Although the Brady Campaign expects the Chicago ordinance to be challenged, it thinks that it may survive because it does not have the restrictions on long guns like the ones found in Washington, D.C.
The Chicago law may also survive because a decision in the D.C. case will likely not resolve the issue of whether the Second Amendment applies to the states and other cities that are not federal enclaves. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5055064&page=1

cutter
06-18-2008, 01:23 AM
As a gunowner, an American, and an NRA member, I will say that we should push this decision for all it is worth and them some if it goes our way. There is no guarantee we are going to get a win. If we do, we need to target Chicago, NYC, and California in general in an effort to repeal the various bans in those places. There are no doubt others that I am not familiar with. We should challenge those too. We then need to target the concealed carry laws of every state in the Union in an effort to remove the limitations on where a CCW holder may carry and to change may issue states to shall issue. From there, we really should start challenging the NFA and various other Federal gun control acts. We need to be careful in this because a loss would set us back a long way, especially early on. On the other hand, every case we won would add weight to our argument and momentum to our cause.

Old Snort
06-18-2008, 11:39 AM
This is a very good argument to support the NRA,for alone we are powerless. Respectfully.---OS

Jorge_Banner
06-18-2008, 12:56 PM
This is a very good argument to support the NRA,for alone we are powerless. Respectfully.---OS

Perhaps a look at this (http://www.jpfo.org/pdf/nraletter.pdf)is in order.

brass hammer
06-19-2008, 02:54 AM
I liked yer' reply "OLD-SNORT",,,as the N.R.A. IS THE 'IRONSPINE':cool:


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DblTap
06-21-2008, 12:22 PM
The fruitcakes at the Brady Campaign may lose their goal of taking away all firearms from American citizens but I can almost guarantee that the judges will maintain govt. ability to legislate firearms as they have been doing since Miller in 1930. This will be only one Supreme court decision. In another 60 yrs if things keep going the way they are even a favorable SCOTUS decision could be overturned. Even the NRA supports certain firearm legislation.

One of the Justices stated that he though Miller was incomplete. I don't exactly know what he meant because he didn't expound but it kind of says there is room for more Supreme Court interpretation. I'm really looking forward to the decision, it should be this coming week.

Sundancekid
07-15-2008, 10:02 AM
Because "Thy rod and Thy staff have been replaced by my Colt Python .357 Magnum in the Bianchi Holster and the Winchester M12 trench gun I carry loaded with 00 buckshot- That's why!!As a gunowner, an American, and an NRA member, I will say that we should push this decision for all it is worth and them some if it goes our way. There is no guarantee we are going to get a win. If we do, we need to target Chicago, NYC, and California in general in an effort to repeal the various bans in those places. There are no doubt others that I am not familiar with. We should challenge those too. We then need to target the concealed carry laws of every state in the Union in an effort to remove the limitations on where a CCW holder may carry and to change may issue states to shall issue. From there, we really should start challenging the NFA and various other Federal gun control acts. We need to be careful in this because a loss would set us back a long way, especially early on. On the other hand, every case we won would add weight to our argument and momentum to our cause.[/QUOTE]