WHAT stops u when I drive a fist into solar plexus?

andy · 07-30-2004, 10:45 AM

"only' 200 ft lbs or a bet less, no loss of blood, no vital organs destroyed (usually) Clowns CLAIM that there's no such thing as shock. Well, I can punch you and prove that there IS such a thing.

Aslan · 07-30-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by andy

"only' 200 ft lbs or a bet less, no loss of blood, no vital organs destroyed (usually) Clowns CLAIM that there's no such thing as shock. Well, I can punch you and prove that there IS such a thing.

different mechanisms at work. (and btw you are destroying blood vessels ad the like)

The solar plexus works because you are striking a fairly significant bundle of nerves and are causing them to fire at once. You are also disrupting the breathing cycle.

The same blow to the thigh or elsewhere won't have the same effect, which it should if it is only about the transfer of energy.

You like to do a lot of bait and switch comparisions, substituting one mechanism for another.

There are many types of shock that are associated with trama. Not all shock even requires physical injury.

RIKA · 07-30-2004, 02:54 PM

More written desires to hurt someone.

RIKA

mrostov · 07-30-2004, 03:50 PM

Well, in that case, since he obviously feels he could survive a punch into the solar plexus, and he claims a Makarov isn't really different, maybe he wouldn't mind someone shooting him in the solar plexus with a Makarov as an experiment, since it obviously won't seriously hurt him.

Obviously someone has never heard the term 'wound channel'.

RIKA · 07-30-2004, 04:59 PM

Those expanded MAK bullets are soooo pretty and much more effective than punching somebody with your fist.

RIKA

andy · 07-30-2004, 07:13 PM

there's NO wound channel with the PUNCH. So why don't you learn to READ, hmm? If it aint a wound channel, like I SAID, WHAT stops you, hmm? if you "think" such a punch WONT stop you, COLD, REGARDLESS of how adrenalized or doped up you are, I'd be HAPPY to show you just how WRONG you are. :-)

andy · 07-30-2004, 07:15 PM

no, the difference is the DISTANCE of the solar plexus from the brain, and the heart, as vs the thigh. Shockwaves in tissue DISSIPATE over distance.

RIKA · 07-30-2004, 08:00 PM

Why is it that everytime somebody answers you, you react like a retarded child full of sound and fury and no substance.

RIKA

Magnum88C · 07-30-2004, 10:32 PM

" 'Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying, nothing."

Aslan · 07-31-2004, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by andy

no, the difference is the DISTANCE of the solar plexus from the brain, and the heart, as vs the thigh. Shockwaves in tissue DISSIPATE over distance.

How about a strike in the shoulder - closer to the brain, no further from the heart - still not the same effect.

It has NOTHING to do with the distance to the brain. It has everything to do with the number of kind of nerves.

The shockwaves that actually make it to the brain from such a strike to the solar plexus would be little more than the shockwaves that reach the brain when a person is running.

You are now just making stuff up, and demonstrating that you don't understand the mechanism at all. You are using faulty assumptions to try and support your position.

I can cause you an inordinate amount of pain by applying pressure to a certain spot where the mandibular nerve is running against bone. I don't have to strike you, just apply pressure to the nerve. It isn't shock, it isn't waves traveling to the brain, it's nerves firing. Same thing can be done to the sciaticus, but it takes a lot more effort and is not something you'd do in combat (more like something you could do in a massage). But pressure on this nerve can be completely debilatating. Again, not by shockwaves or tissue destruction, by simply causing a few nerves to fire.

You need to spend some time and get to understand the principles involved.