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enough, and is a sub 7 lb package, empty. Loaded with 30 rds, another 3/4 lb. Scope and mount add 3/4 lb. bipod adds 1/4 lb. 22 unit adds a lb. 2 spare mags add .5 lb, another 60 rds of 223 adds 1.5 lbs. 200 rds of .22 unit adds a bit over 1.5 lbs. Say 13.5lbs, with a spare bolt and all its parts, firing pin, etc, and a cleaning kit. That is carryable, and it's versatile,.quiet, long range enough,powerful enough, and perfect for the LIKELY sort of foraging and 'fighting" that you can get away with doing. I'd personally add 2.5 lbs of a pair of pocket pistols, one a canned .22. Add this to 30 lbs of water, rations, pack, sleep gear, shelter gear, tools, extra clothing, and other survival gear, and 4 lbs of concealable armor, and you have a 50 lb total, which is about 10 lbs too much, really, even for a really fit man to fight with, but nothing much for such a man to put on a mountain bicycle, and cover a LOT of ground fast, off road. Ditto for putting on a (buried) inflatable raft and drifting downstream at night.

Once inside the "cache circle", of course, you can stash well over 10 lbs of the 50 lbs of stuff, with little or no risk of needing it and not being able to access it, in time. Naturally, IF you make it to a place where you've already cached some other stuff, you are in pretty good shape. Especially if you've also dug and covered some spiderholes.
 

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just because U can't even make a .22 unit

work does NOTmean others can't do fine gunsmithing, loser. :)
 

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Losers, are those that have jobs cleaning porta potties.
 

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Hmmmmm :)

Just about the same measurements that you were used to being shoved up your 6 in prison on a daily basis right JD?
 
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