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I read an article today at work from the British Army "Soldier" magazine where they say you can actually drink your own urine............ I don't think so!!!!


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That sounds like a very interesting system. For a downed flyer or lost hiker. I wonder though will it take salt water and turn it into drinking water. If so, it's a seaman's salvation!
 

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hey, I heard that some of the hostages in the russian school seige were drinkin their own piss on the second day...

I've been THIRSTY in the desert before, enough to look for tin cans with a drop of moisture left in them... believe me, out here, that pack might be a good thing.
 

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Garand, actually, that is a very cool piece of gear.
 

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A good idea that everybody can use.

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you know, considering gunkid has no map or compass skills, that pack might mean the difference of life and death for him. I'm sure he would piss in it, that being his nature.
 

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That's a really cool piece of kit for arid and possibly even marine environments.

It's fine and dandy to say you won't drink filtered piss until you're dying of thirst. If I was, well, shit...make it a double, with a twist of lime.
 

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Problem is, there isn't a lot of filterable water in piss. You have a lot fo uric acid, urea, ammonium ions, general toxins, etc. You're better off with mud puddles.
 

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Personally, I'll hold out for a mud puddle. But if the balloon ever goes up, I reserve the right to rethink that decision!
 

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Garand said:
Personally, I'll hold out for a mud puddle. But if the balloon ever goes up, I reserve the right to rethink that decision!
My thoughts exactly.
 

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Ever see someone vomiting from the toxins from urine that they THOUGHT was filtered well (talk about a field test)? great idea, make yourself puke when you're critically dehydrated.

Granted, you may be in a position where you HAVE to try it, or die anyway. That's about the only way I'd try it, and it still doesn't make it a good idea, just the only one available.
 

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"8. Can I filter urine through HTI’s products and produce safe drink?

HTI’s products are not designed to filter urine. The system’s strength is its ability to work with very turbid water sources. However, due to the extremely tight membrane, HTI filters are capable of rejecting close to 90% of the salts in urine. In a crisis, HTI products have been used to filter urine and have been credited for saving lives.

9. Can I filter salt water or brackish water with the HTI system?

HTI’s current set of products are not designed to filter salt or brackish water. Water containing salt is inherently very high in osmotic pressure. To overcome this pressure, a greater pressure must be created within the clean-side of the HTI membrane. This can only be accomplished through the introduction of substantially more sugars to drive the osmosis. In addition, salt has a very small molecular weight, and can leak through HTI’s current membrane. To address this, HTI has created a new product called the Sea Pack. The Sea Pack features a very tight membrane that rejects even salt and can supply life-sustaining drink from even the world’s oceans."

Source: http://www.hydrationtech.com/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=MHTI&Category_Code=TECH-FAQ

"Known as the HydroPack, the device can produce one liter of pure “nutrient liquid” from any water source — except salty or brackish water, as from a sea or marsh — no matter how dirty or contaminated.

“Any water source” includes urine, as U.S. special operations soldiers proved when they tested the device in Iraq last summer, Darsch said."

Source: http://www.stripesonline.com/article.asp?section=104&article=22022&archive=true

I'd like to see more results from independent testing carried out over 10 days with quantitative analysis of water purity. As it stands, though, I'd use it if I had no other choice, and its apparently safe to do so.
 

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MMMmmmmm, I can just see it now, lemonade in the desert wilderness, what a sweet/sour thought. If forced to do so, I would drink my own pee after trying to filter it in much less than this apparent 'miracle' sytem they seem to be advertising; so if I had their system it would be all the easier for me in such a situation.
 

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Wylycoyte said:
That's a really cool piece of kit for arid and possibly even marine environments.

It's fine and dandy to say you won't drink filtered piss until you're dying of thirst. If I was, well, shit...make it a double, with a twist of lime.
hey! i've blown past "herds" of central americans, just 'knackkered-out ' along the WEST road to SELLS AZ. there is usaully a 1/2 full gallon jug of 'piss'
still in the grasp of [1] still standing! [i ain't shittin']


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