[andy]

more". (Kilamajoro Bell), with 100x the experince on big game as anyone else in the world ever had.

 

[RIKA]

Get the name right. Its Karamojo Bell and you ain't him. I don't know why he used the 6.5x54MS and 7x57 on dangerous game - maybe its all he had. But I will bet you the finest CAR you've ever seen that if he had modern guns like the 458Win or 460 Weatherby, he would use them and never look back.

RIKA

 

[Hard Ball]

Kilamajoro Bell was the bell in the village of Kilamajoro. All us old African hamds know that! :dgrin:

 

[andy]

yeah, old man, tell us some MORE lies about all your "experience".

 

[DJetAce]

What is more, the 6.5mm he used did NOT use 100gr bullets. I believe they were 160gr LONG RN FMJ. So was the 7mm Mauser. It used LONG 175gr RN FMJ. He also used .303 British with LONG 215gr RN FMJ!

See Stup*kid, you don't know sh*it about the subject.

 

[41mag]

Somebody around here is always ranting about practice!Somebody around here expouses that with practice a .223 is at least as effective as a .308.Somebody around here is missing his own point.A PH(or very expierienced hunter)that chooses to use a rifle/caliber that most would call wrong is only exercising their skill.Somebody here says that skill comes from expierience.Somebody here has never shot an elephant w/anything.[well,probably most somebodies here-you get my point though].Somebody should consider only opening one thread per subject.Somebody seems hellbent on jacking their post count.

 

[Magnum88C]

He's just graciously proving my point over and over, that those who successfully hunt dangerous game with medium bores KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING, KNEW WHERE TO HIT THE ANIMAL, SO THAT SUCH WOULD SUFFICE, AND USED SOLID PROJECTILES.

 

[andy]

If all I wanted was post-count, dumbass, I could post 100x a day, no problem. Unlike you, I can TYPE, and I also KNOW thousands more times about guns than what you know, dumbass. 22 PRACTICE is 10x as likely to occur as 380 practice, dumbass. If you'd shot animals with both 22 and 380, dumbass, you'd KNOW that the 22 is JUST as "effective" as is factory 380 ammo.

 

[Hard Ball]

"tell us some MORE lies about all your "experience".

Surry, I don't tell lies. Don't judge everyone else by yourself.

 

[41mag]

WTF does practice w/a 22 & a 380 pistol have to do with shooting big game w/rifles?
Smells like apples 'n' potatoes to me.
Buuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrpppppppp!Sorry Andy,did I get any on you?:santa:

 

[andy]

223 IS as effective as 308, at what MATTERS, and with a can, it's FAR better than 308. A 308 can that really IS effective at suppressing rapidfire, full charge ammo is SO big and heavy that it RUINS the rifle for anything but bipod type work. That is a FACT. The lw, compact 308 cans are pretty worthless with full charge ammo, in rapidfire. They are intended for SLOWFIRE, with 200 gr loads at 1000 fps. Hell yes, I can build a small, lw can for such loads. It's basically just a .45 ACP. 8" of 1.5" can will suppress such 308 loads to BB gun "noise", with ease, as long as you don't fire faster than 1 shot per second or so.

 

[Garand]

Just because you lack the capability to master something, it doesn't mean we all suffer from YOUR problems!

 

[Magnum88C]

223 IS as effective as 308, at what MATTERS

First of all, you're dream SHTF of combat 24/7 won't happen, ever. It's already been explained why.

Second, in combat, effective hits beyond 100 yards MATTERS. The POS you advocate won't give effective hits even that far out.

 

[Dorobuta]

223 IS as effective as 308, at what MATTERS, and with a can, it's FAR better than 308. A 308 can that really IS effective at suppressing rapidfire, full charge ammo is SO big and heavy that it RUINS the rifle for anything but bipod type work. That is a FACT. The lw, compact 308 cans are pretty worthless with full charge ammo, in rapidfire. They are intended for SLOWFIRE, with 200 gr loads at 1000 fps. Hell yes, I can build a small, lw can for such loads. It's basically just a .45 ACP. 8" of 1.5" can will suppress such 308 loads to BB gun "noise", with ease, as long as you don't fire faster than 1 shot per second or so.

no, what's a fact, is you are clueless and wrong again:

that suppressor is rated for for full auto and up to .300 mag.. This configuration is quite handy, and I've carried it and used in the field and on long trips.

you don't know anywhere near what you think you know. This just shows another of your so called facts to be a falsehood.

I do believe your pants may be on fire.

 

[John in AR]

...A 308 can that really IS effective at suppressing rapidfire, full charge ammo is SO big and heavy that it RUINS the rifle for anything but bipod type work.

(Since this pic was made I swapped out the KAK 'blade' for a different brace. Like it much better now.)

This gun is in .300 blackout, but the suppressor on it is rated not only for .308, but for up to .300 Win Mag and even .338 Win Mag. Hardly turns it into a "bipod-only" gun, unless you have the upper-body strength of a three-year-old:

Fact is, it's only ~6" longer and 7 ounces heavier than the same gun unsuppressed, with the KAK flashcan flash hider on it:

Does the extra 6" of length and 7 ounces of weight make it too much gun for you to handle without a bipd, JMD? I'm sorry to hear that. I guess nobody can fault you too much for that - the years of drug dependency do take their toll, especially when you're well into senior-citizen status, don't they?