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hits to chest, from side, before either could run 100m. One only made it 50m, before staggering, going down, back legs first. Big buck, too. :) 170 gr 30-30 sp OFTEN does no better, and SOMETIMES 308 sp doesn't do much, if any better. 308 BALL does no better, either. :). It's feasible to can a shorty 223, it's NOT feasible to can an M1A. The result is just too heavy and awkward a rifle.
 

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win 55 gr 223 is SAAMI spec, 2600+ fps from 11", down to 2300 fps or a bit less, out where it hit those deer, yet it sufficed ok. :) Men aint deer, either.
 

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Right, men aren't deer. You can about liquify a deer's lungs and heart, and it still might run 100 yards. That's no measure of a round's stopping power on a man. That's like chopping off a chicken's head and watching it run around the yard and then claiming that decapitation isn't an effective manstopping method.
 

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Gunkid says: "It's feasible to can a shorty 223, it's NOT feasible to can an M1A. The result is just too heavy and awkward a rifle."

I can carry a M1A just fine. 7 miles is the longest distance with a light pack, water and ammo. I'm not a pack mule. You keep loading your liabilities onto the rest of us. Bad mistake.

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On top of that he keeps thinking FMJ is all we're limited to in .308. tsk tsk tsk......

All I need to do with my M1-A is just use different ammo, no need to tote around multiple upper's in differernt lengths and weights along with special ammo per each one to get the job done.
 

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It's feasible to can a shorty 223, it's NOT feasible to can an M1A.
As usual you're totally wrong. My guys love their suppressed M1As, the Hajis well I can only guess that they hate them, but then again they aren't doing too much talking after being introduced to our M1As and FALs.
 

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My bragging shot was a 1 shot (heart shot) at 450 yds using a .308 Remington M788 fitted with a Bushnell Banner 4x scope with a BDC. I was using Remington 150 grain Core Lokt. I spotted a 6 pointer mulie buck at about 500 yds. I moved another 50 yds closer to the mulie before I ran out of cover. I adopted the prone position, snugged up my sling, dialed in 450 and gently squeezed. One shot, 1 mulie! It went straight down. When I hunted, I put a minimum of 200 rds through the rifle before I went out and purchased my tag. As for the weight difference between the AR all kitted out and a scoped M1A, each with 100 rds might be 6 lbs, depending on the garbage that you have stuck on the AR. If you can't handle an extra 6 lbs, your a WHIMP! According to you it's not feasible to put a suppressor on an M1A, thank gawd, most soldiers aren't as much of a WHIMP as you are.
 

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Cool pics and reminds me of something I always wanted to ask.

Polesmoker- Maybe you could help me with it. I always wanted to know how sturdy the pistol grip is on one of those M-14/M1-A stocks like what Garand posted.

Have their been any incidents of the grip breaking when in combat? I know anything can eventually break if abused enough just wondering how well they can take hard knocks, bumps, etc.,.
 

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and an ingorant LIAR has to post his BS:) guntwit, if running 100 yards is the best a .223 can do, that's pretty poor. .270s, .308s, and lots of others put deer down within a few steps. FMJ .223 from a POS 11" CAR isn't much. and you just proved it.
 

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Polesmoker- Maybe you could help me with it. I always wanted to know how sturdy the pistol grip is on one of those M-14/M1-A stocks like what Garand posted.

Have their been any incidents of the grip breaking when in combat? I know anything can eventually break if abused enough just wondering how well they can take hard knocks, bumps, etc.,.
Looks like those are McMillan Stocks, you'd have to try to break one.

You aren't very likely to be in any shape to use your rifle if your body suffers the same abuse that caused a McMillan stock to break.
 

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I've got a McMillan stock on my .338 - They make a very good stock. You could not go wrong with a McMillan....

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