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is a joke, and it's LIKEWISE a joke in a 357 Snub. At least it would be controlable in a 1911, and get .18 second splits, not .35 second splits, like a 357 snub is limited to. At least the gun would hold 8 rds, not 5, and have a 2 second reload, while leaving one in the chamber, unlike the 6 second, totally helpless state of the 357 Snub. The .357 snub aint pocketable, so it has to be compared to other belt guns. When you do so, you see just how badly it sucks. There's no point in having lots of blast and flash and recoil, and not having any real ability to come with it. That's stupid. I'd greatly prefer the gun to have no sound, no flash, and no recoil at all. But then, I'm not stupid, like so many people are. All I want out of a gun is PERFORMANCE. Not nostalgie, not "mystique", not "investment value", not artifact-interest,not some bs "thinking" that it's "so reliable", etc. Just PROVEN ability to get the job done, faster, and easier.
 

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A super expert like you is admitting that they can't control a .357 Snubbie?

In one post you say the first shot is the only one that counts, so you don't mind having one that commonly misfeeds, but now you say a snubbie is horrible because it only has 5 shots? MAKE UP YOUR MIND!

Tell my snubbie and my pocket that they can't go together any longer, because I've been carrying my .357 that way for years. I can also shoot my snubbie acouple of times from the pocket without removing it if necessary, but I wouldn't trust that with a semi. (You can start a minor fire this way on the shirt, though....lol.)

As far as the flash and sound goes, I'm glad it is there. If I happen to miss (it can easily happen in high stress situations), the 4' flash and loud BANG is much more likely to scare them off than a silenced firearm with no flash. Trust me: I'd rather scare them off than be standing over a dead body where the local prosecuter mght want to make an example by sending an innocent person to jail for a while.

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223 fan said:
is a joke, and it's LIKEWISE a joke in a 357 Snub. At least it would be controlable in a 1911, and get .18 second splits, not .35 second splits, like a 357 snub is limited to.
Jerry Mickulek is getting faster than 0.18 second splits with revolvers.
 

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bs, Jerry doesn't try it with full charge

mag ammo, even in N frames, much less in snubby's, and Smith aint providing YOU with free guns and ammo, and Clark Custom aint paying YOU to do nothing but shoot, either.

NOBODY can adequately control a 357 snub, and NOBODY is fast from a pants pocket with same, cause they are WAY too big. Wrap a fist around on, in a proper firing grip, and you'd need a pocket the size of a 10 gallon hat, in order to swiftly draw from it.

Yes, the first shot should do it, which is why it's STUPID to be slow with it, and the 357 snubby, from a pocket rig, IS slow for the first shot. NOt only that, but it has at MOST a pathetic 400 ft lbs of energy, nor is it likely to have enough velocity to reliably expand a jhp, in flesh. What happens in jello is irrelevant.
 

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YOUR idea of "controling" a 357 snub

is .35 second splits. My idea of controling a powerful defensive pistol is .17 second splits, on repeat hits to the 10" chest circle, at 6 ft, one handed,or at 10ft,both hands on the gun. Maybe YOU consider an 18 second 100 yd dash to be "fast", but I dont. Being twice as slow as one need be, with life and death as the price,is just plain stupid
 

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that depends upon how fast you are

with it. Knowing your level of ineptitude, getting such a hit with adequate speed is extremely unlikely, especially with a 357 snub.
 

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223 fan said:
Knowing your level of ineptitude, getting such a hit with adequate speed is extremely unlikely, especially with a 357 snub.
Perhaps you will compete against me sometime?
 
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