charge .45 ammo. you clowns with your N frame 357's are WAY behind the curve. That was on modern electronic shooting timers, PROVEN MANY TIMES, then and since, by quite a few 1911 users. NOT some uprovable bs claim, back in 1930's Ammo performance CHECKABLE on a pendulum or the chronograph, weighing the bullets. FACT is,N frame 357is TWICE as slow for repeat hits as one needs to be with a pistol that's smaller, thinner, lighter,and hits every bit as hard as does the 357.