[Glenn Bartley]

My favorite pistol in .22LR is the Beretta 70S. This pistol is quite accurate and gobbles up then spits out almost every type of .22 ammo I have ever fed to it. It is accurate enough for game hunting, and is concealable to carry. While I do not ever recommend a .22LR as a primary carry weapon, it does make a suitable gun for dispatching an opponent if nothing else is at hand. A versatile survival weapon if ever there was one in the .22LR pistol arena.
Best regards,
Glenn B

 

[brass hammer]

i bought a browning

micro buckmark[used, from dealer,about10 years ago]

it was a hopeless pos, jamming about 3 times a magazine[i now have 4 for it]

then with demel cut out wheel, removed about 1.5 coils on slide/recoil spring


it's super -matic now. i really like it and don't feel under gunned packing it,with spare mags[if that makes any sense]



thanks.

 

[Garand]

Stainless Ruger Mk II Bull Barrel is my choice.

 

[mrostov]

Ruger MkII Stainless, fixed sights, 4-3/4" standard barrel, Houge grips.

 

[robert garner]

S&W k-22 hey whats the 5th screw for? all shots in one hole at 30 ft!

 

[RIKA]

Ruger MK2 heavy barrel, blue with adjustable sights.

RIKA

 

[Half elf]

Browning Challenger II, It was my first pistol, and I got real good at dropping anything that I shot at(small game, targets). The only thing I dont like is the mag rlease. Its at the heel of the grip, and impossible to release with one hand.

 

[41mag]

Ruger SS 6 7/8 slabside.Unfortunately,the S&W 22a,even broken,is lighter & as accurate as the Ruger.I like the MKII better though.Eats everything.

 

[SatCong]

Ruger MK I " if there is such a thing, as it's not marked as such" which I traded for, even, with a .36 lyman "navy colt" in 1974. It's a delight, 6" barrel, fixed sights, blue.
SatCong

 

[andy]

Hey, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>, holster the Browning, drop the mag with one hand while it's holstered. Bingo, ask the Gunkid, and the "impossible" often becomes INSTANTLY very feasible.

 

[andy]

.22 is either for training (when the best choice is a conversion unit) or for foraging, when the best choice is somethiung with a silencer mounted on it, or something that is very handy as you fish, hike, etc. For such purposes, the HP22, Smith 2214, M21 Beretta, Walther TPH are all pocketable. The HP22 and M21 are far easier to suppress, the 2214 is about impossible to suppress, unless you are willing to settle for a mere 1.5" of rifling. then you could counterbore and thread 3/4" of the muzzle.

Tph has too short a barrel for the counterbore technique to work. It requires a longer barrel, as do the other 2. GunsNStuff sells a threaded barrel for the M21, and Phoenix sells a 5" barrel for the HP, which is easily cut to 3 3/4" and externally-threaded. The TPH requires a longer barrel, and removal-replacement of that barrel requires a frame support, so you don't collapse it in the vise, a torch, with which to heat the "horseshoe" frame collar, which then expands enough to let you use a mallet to drive the barrel backwards, out of its frame-mount. HUGE PITA.

 

[Glenn Bartley]

Wow Andy that was so deep! Who would have ever thought of doing a one handed reload with the gun in the holster. NOw I would have thought of it, but I also would have thought of doing the same by placing the gun in the waistband, or between your legs, or held under one arm against the body, or under the chin pressed against your chest. Of course these are usually combat reloads used when one hand is disabled and all are potentially dangerous if you forget a round in the pistol. I guess while you knew there was one way to do the so called impossible, someone else here knew several ways to accomplish what only you would take credit for as being your own idea of how to solve the so called impossible. Funny how you don't come up with the real tactical stuff!

Then again, don't you think he was talking about during the course of normal shooting, and that maybe he was not wanting to have to reholster, or was that too difficult for you to fathom? Maybe he was at the range and was not using a holster, did you think of that. Maybe he was just voicing some discontent with the magazine release position (a basically European design).

Of course there probably is a way to remove the magazine with one hand without holding the gun with the other or without putting it into any other type of hold situation - it works on other guns with the mag release in the same position. I'll let you figure that out if you want to, but I do not recommend it because it is dangerous and likely to result in an accidental discharge if the gun is loaded.

By the way, your advice about holstering the pistol was pretty good, too bad you had to include it with the braggarts style with which you seem to be so familiar.

 

[Glenn Bartley]

Andy,

Now I don't get you at all. First you talk about pocketable 22 pistols, then you talk about adding a suppressor. Are they still pocketable then? I imagine you could carry them seperated and put them together before taking a shot, but that means you would be unprepared until they were assembled together in scenaruios where a silencer was called for.

If you want a 22 that is readily adaptable to a suppressor consider the Beretta 70S of which I wrote earlier. It is a prime pistol for such use. It is quite compact and fits the pocket fairly well, albeit without the suppressor. It comes with a barrel that protrudes sufficiently for threading, or can be had with a barrel that is a few inches longer, and this one can be cut or threaded as needed. Along those lines this pistol was once the choice of the Mosaad for many years. I can assure you its primary use was not as a training weapon or for hunting when used by the Mossad. Well, maybe it was used for hunting of a sort the two to the head kind of a thing.

It was also available in .380 but sadly is no longer manufactured. You can however, often find them for sale at sites like this or Gunbroker.com.

Best regards,
Glenn B

 

[andy]

no, the Beretta 70 is NOT compact. It's 7" long, and when you add the typical 5" of silencer to that, you need a SHOULDER rig and a jacket to ccw it. The M21, fitted with GunsNStuff threaded barrel, is 5.5" long, and it lends itself well to my sleeved and underchambered can, making the package 8-9" long, depending upon whether or not you are willing to bother with "wetting" the can, for max "quietness". Such a gun and can combo is easily carriedin the thigh pocket of the cammies, or ccw'd IWB, for a swift draw. Wear a PACK over a ccw'd shoulder rig, and lets SEE you draw from it. TRY finding a comfortable to wear fanny pack, at the navel, which will conceal a 12" long gun.

nor does the uncanned M70 offer ease of front pants pocket carry. It's a nice gun, very reliable, etc, but it's hard to find, expense and lots less tactically useful than the M21, because of M70's bulk and wt. U AINT a Mossaad agent, you DO have to have both CCW AND a gun with some real stopping power. A 356 pocket centerfire AND a M21, with can, total 32 ozs, FULLY loaded.

 

[andy]

I've tried going up to 1 1/4" OD for the 22 silencer, and it's NOT quiet. 1" of 6" long, dry, is very quiet indeed. So is 5", wet down with WD-40 and water.

 

[Glenn Bartley]

Who said the 70s was a compact pistol? Once again you do not read what others have written or if you do you then imply they wrote otherwise only so as to fiot it into your ranting! The 70S is a superior pistol to the M21 any day, that is a fact which is very difficult to beat. It functions better, has a better site raduius, has adjustable sights, and is better suited to hunting, has a better point of aim in the hand. Come now aren't you, of all people aware of this. The M21 is a toy compared to the 70S. The M21 is a last ditch backup weapon at most. I can imagine how clownish it looks with a suppressor mounted on it. Must make you feel quite like James Bond or would that be more like Austin Powers when that tip up barrel tips up with the suppressor attached.

As to me being in the Mosaad, who said I was in that group or who even inferred such. Again as I see it you twitter about like a twit and put implications into other people's posts that are nonexistant. I am an agent though - got you there. I have shot and been shot at by people - got you there. You are a paper punching wussy as far as I can tell, little more.

Break outs from jail. Right. Again I woinder how is it that you get away with writing all this stuff on the PC in the jail house library. What will happen when the warden finds out?

 

[Half elf]

Sorry GoofBall, I wasn't looking for advice, I was making a comment on a particular design of weapon. It is not possible to perform a true tactical reload with a european magizine release. Holstering a pistol is not included in a tactical reload, nor is it feasible. There also was no need to use red stars or their equivalant if you tried being civil you might find that some of us shoot more per year than you and actally are quite good at what we do.

 

[Hard Ball]

I like my Smith&Wesson Model 41.

 

[Magnum88C]

Toss up between the bull-barrel Ruger 22/45, I like the grip angle better than the MkII,
and the Ruger Single Six. The 22/45 is more accurate, but the single six can fire anything from .22 short to .22 magnum.

BWT both have taken plenty of game without wearing a suppressor or being carried in my pocket. (you can tell dipdunk has never carred a gun in his pocket more than 10 feet).

 

[Garand]

Its been about 3-4 years now that I bought my Beretta M70 in .22 and at least 10 since I sold the Ruger. Glenn was correct, nice small pistol that eats absolutely anything you feed it.