[John in AR]

I'd heard of a "K" baffle, but never seen one. Interesting, in that the offset secondary hole and cone-shape combine to provide a secondary "chamber" for the gas to enter and then reverse course & exit the same path backwards. It also gives a lot of surface area for heat transfer.

(This isn't mine, just a pic I came across.)

 

[RIKA]

I want to learn more too. Somebody said that the Russians used baffles shaped like I beams and the Germans used ones shaped like funnels (both sideways views).

RIKA

 

[andy]

completely pointless and unnecessary with low pressure-heat rds like .22lr. With a high v rifle rd, on full auto, yeah, maybe. Otherwise, big waste of time and money.

 

[RIKA]

At least you recognize the need for quality baffles for high pressure-heat rds instead of your silly wire screen baffles.

See, you're learning from us.

RIKA

 

[John in AR]

It does cut down on maintenance. Cleaning only every couple thousand rounds, and no re-forming even then; just disassemble/clean/reassemble. And still provides very good db reduction.

Not exactly "pointless" if it can cut maintenance down that much, IMO.

I actually don't know if the one I'm having built has these or the older "M" style baffles; I've seen my guy's suppressors in use, but never seen one disassembled. (The "M" baffle looks like you'd expect a suppressor baffle to look like. Kind of like a washer with the inner and outer rims folded in, or a hollowed-out half-bagel shape.)

So I'm not trying to defend the type I'm going to, because I don't know if that's what's in it or not; just passing something along that I hadn't come across before and struck me as interesting.

Don't worry, once I get my MarkII back, I'm sure you'll be sick of me posting pics and talking about it.

 

[andy]

it IS pointless, since u dont have to practice with can

in place, ya know.

I recognize no such thing, for non-full auto, <font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font><font color=red>*</font>.

 

[RIKA]

I think that John and others have posted that they practice with their suppressors in place. You can do that with quality equipment while a home made POS made with 1940's technology just falls apart after a little use.

RIKA

 

[Magnum88C]

Practicing with something OTHER than the ammunition and equipment you plan to have when it's for real is a quick way to get dead. So, if John intends to use his rifle with the supressor attached when it's "for real" he needs to get at least some practice with it attached, and with the full-power ammo he intends to use, as I doubt if he's stupid enough to go into a gunfight with a less reliable, and not at all powerful rimfire.

 

[Hard Rock]

Nice pic, that is the first gen K baffle you are showing there. Gen 2 has some modifications. And yes, you need to practice with the suppressor on the gun, the POI will shift with the can on it.

Mike

 

[dardani]

anyone have seen a gemtech baffle??
i would like to see one because they say are really strange

 

[Hard Rock]

The Gemtech baffles are a modified K baffle unless they've changed in the last year or so. Just imagine the pic above with some more cuts in it and you pretty much have the general idea.

Mike

 

[andy]

why waste your money? You can make a perfectly usable 22 can yourself, in one day, and once the materials and tools are available, you can make and mount one ina couple of hours. So your $200 fed fee is about your only cost. I repeat, nobody HAS to practice with the can in place. So why bother with such, anyway? We all know that 90+ % of those interested in cans will never legally own one. We also consider TEOTWAWKI to be a viable subject for discussion. If it's the end of the world, why worry about silencer laws and regs, hmm?

 

[Hard Rock]

Yes, you do have to practice with a can mounted on the gun... I've explained why many times. The only reason you don't is if you are such a bad shot it won't make a difference anyway.

Mike

 

[John in AR]

...90+ % of those interested in cans will never legally own one...

Very possibly true, but there ARE also those of us who are "interested in cans" and do legally own one (or more, as the case may be).

 

[andy]

sure, 50,000 private owners.

150,000 guys have bought a "how to" book about making 22 cans, and you can bet each one averaged being read by 2 guys. Those sales are a LONG, LONG ways from being everyone who is interested, too. Figure 5 million interested parties, 50,000 is 1%, not 10%. I've never met a SINGLE even semi-interested 22 shooter who WASN'T interested in suppressors for same.

 

[RIKA]

Being interested in suppressors and actually constructing them are two different matters. Something about the federal slammer seems to deter people. I will however admit that such knowledge is valuable to have in your head. The homemade suppressor is a last resort though. The professionally made ones are far superior in every way.

RIKA

 

[dardani]

gemtech

The Gemtech baffles are a modified K baffle unless they've changed in the last year or so. Just imagine the pic above with some more cuts in it and you pretty much have the general idea.

Mike

gemtech use diferent baffles on it's baffle stack,outback seahunter,and other 22 suppressors exept slimline are vortex modified cans,and vortex is two diferent baffle can,two are m-baffles and three k-baffles or in reverse order,someone told me ,and i am telling you.

 

[Hard Rock]

Hmmm... I have an Outback and it has K baffles in it. Now, I do know that my Mk9K can has two different baffle designs in it, one being a flared stamped baffle while the other is a machined T12 designed baffle.

Mike

 

[dardani]

gemtech

gemtech mk9k is allmost the quietest 9mm muzzle supressor on mp5 and uzi,just heard once,actually only the uzi bolt action,but they say is quieter on mp5.yes it's true the first mk9k baffle is a very agresive baffle to create turbulence,and directing gases harder on coaxial chamber ,dr.Dater designed it ,and it is equal with sg9k by tac-ord designed by Jim Ryan.

 

[Hard Rock]

I agree, the only suppressor that is quieter that I've found is the AWC Mk9 which is about 4 inches longer than the MK9K... I've found that the UZI is quieter than the MP5 suppressed overall. Best ammo to use is the 147 grain SXT by Winchester... It's VERY quiet.

Mike