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10" barrel and 9" of suppressor, the CAR-15 is but 2" longer than the 30c, and if the stock is retracted, the CAR is 1" shorter than the 30c. :) Using the right ammo, and with a scope, the 10" 223 has twice the stopping probability of 30c ball ammo, and twice the effective range of the iron sighted Carbine. Since the 30c and ball sufficed for the greatest warrior of modern times, having 4x as much rifle suffices for shtf, given proper tactics.

The .22 unit and subsonic lr's lets you CHECK zero of the scope, and alignment of the can, DISCRETELY, every time you have to dis and re-assemble one of those components. That's a very nice, confidence-enhancing touch. Just one of many that the CAR-15 and .22 unit offer.
 

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Since I got on this suppressor 'kick' a while ago, I've considered having one (or both) of my M1 carbines' barrels turned & threaded for a .30 cal suppressor. Since I also own two .308's and a 7.62x39, a .308-oriented suppressor could serve on several guns, albeit being somewhat overkill on the .30 carbine.

Don't want to shorten the barrel, tho. At least not to the point where there'd be "SBR" issues.
 
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Problem with the CAR is it jams more than the Carbine ever did.

I'll take the Carbine over a CAR any day. But, the CAR, like the Carbine, is a specialty weapon, NOT a general purpose weapon.

Notice the Army dropped the CAR and dropped the Carbine. Gives you a hint. If you carry only one rifle, you want that rifle able to do many things well and the CAR doesn't.
 
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