308 fans r dumbasses. No advantage over 223 at night or in thick cover, and only idiots are in open country in daylight. So why bother with the pos? Just means no concealment, no .22 unit, no can, or no handiness with can, same thing, carry half as much ammo, etc.
I read this again and realized that the 'truth' regarding 308 vs 223, is equally true if talking about the 223 vs the 9mm pistol. If it's dark and the target is behind cover (ie, we can't see the target and the bullet can't get to the target anyway), it really doesn't matter what caliber we're talking about. The 223 (especially a 223 softpoint from a short barrel) has LESS barrier penetration than a lot of pistol loads, so even that 'advantage' is gone in this silly exercise.
For that matter, the pistol actually
exceeds the 223 for this argument. It's more easily concealed, it's easier to suppress, and uses ammo roughly the same weight. So by this yardstick, the 9mm beats both the 223 rifle AND the 308 rifle. And if we continue down these same "advantage" paths (effectiveness and convenience when encountering targets that can't be seen or hit - 🤡 ), a 5.7x28 pistol exceeds even the 9mm pistol. It's every bit as effective against targets that can't be seen or hit, it's easy to suppress, and its ammo is substantially lighter than than even the 9mm.
And hory clap - continuing one stop further along this same alleged logic train, a 22 pistol would beat out ALL of them. I mean, it's more easily concealed, it's easier to suppress, it's
inherently its own ".22 unit", it's undeniably more handy, and allows the carry of MUCH more ammunition.
There we go - the perfect shtf fighting weapon? The mighty rimfire Beretta 21 with suppressor. See? There is method to the madness...
Yes, that's silly. And that's my point. Because the reasons listed for the 308 having "no advantage" over a 223 shorty (on targets that you can't see and can't hit), are undeniably equally true about a 223 shorty not being better than a 22 pistol. The deeper you read some of this stuff, the deeper and clearer the jackassery gets.