that walks has fallen to chest hits from the .44, and from similar "powered" muzzleloaders. With the 3-4 hits per second possible with the canned BAR, alloy framed, 308, why bother with slowassed bolt action, when you are talking EITHER hunting or defense against big animals, hmm? If you "telescope" about 8" of the 308 can back around the barrel, and don't really care about max quietness, another 6" of can, past the muzzle of the 20" barrel, can do a lot for you. The OAL and wt will still be less than that of a 26" barreled 12 ga pump or autoloader, which many consider to be "fast handling', and lw enough to carry afield all day, in search of upland birds.
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with this sort of speed of hitting, the hunter is not outclassed if he has to "turn" a charge by severalcritters, OR deal with AK armed poachers, or any other sort of human challenge(as he IS outclassed, having nothing more than a bolt action). A 10 rd mag, and swift changes of such, certainly suffices for any realistically survivable scenario.
Just how much PRACTICE at getting hits on the 6" brain circle of a charging elephant, bear, etc, does anyone GET with ammo that costs several dollars per shot, hmm? At 15c per shot, for 308 milsurp, you can practice such shots a LOT, and the can will help you hit it, (a LOT). It DOES, however, require a low powered scope,somethinglike a 1.5x.4.5x variable, with either a post reticle or heavy xhairs. The 2" OD of the 308 can means you can't see above the can with the iron sights. You CAN, of course,paint the rear end of the can white, and just keep both eyes open. One eye will see the target,the other eye sees the sights, and the brain will automatically superimpose those two images.So you CAN "see" the sights on the target.
Just how much PRACTICE at getting hits on the 6" brain circle of a charging elephant, bear, etc, does anyone GET with ammo that costs several dollars per shot, hmm? At 15c per shot, for 308 milsurp, you can practice such shots a LOT, and the can will help you hit it, (a LOT). It DOES, however, require a low powered scope,somethinglike a 1.5x.4.5x variable, with either a post reticle or heavy xhairs. The 2" OD of the 308 can means you can't see above the can with the iron sights. You CAN, of course,paint the rear end of the can white, and just keep both eyes open. One eye will see the target,the other eye sees the sights, and the brain will automatically superimpose those two images.So you CAN "see" the sights on the target.
yeah, IF you are talking shooting at unaware, unarmed targets. However, stupid, THAT is no challenge at all. Only a pos like you would think otherwise.
I repeat, u r a pos, because you "think" the way that you do. A CHALLENGE, you pos, is a FIGHT, not picking off unarmed noncombatants.
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