No one can disagree with those statements, certainly not me.fishheadsoup said:I'm looking at the .308 instead of the 30-06 for economic reasons. I just picked up a Remington 870 Police Mag 12g and I already have a pistol so now I want to get a rifle. I don't hunt (because I have albertsons for that but, that doesn't mean I condone nor disapprove of hunting).
My personal opinion is if you hunt and kill, you should eat it. I'm not into wasting. Anywho, enough of my thoughts. I'm here to hear your guys thoughts.
If you want to shoot at a thousand yards, you need one of the thirty caliber magnums, or a .30-338. Although the .30-06 has been successfully used at those ranges.
What's a good rifle for some long range shooting? The ranges here are 150-300, I do have access to 800-1000 but that's after the range shuts down and I happen to know/volunteer with the guys that run the shop.
There are many good bolt actions on the market, what you will hear here is the private opinions of quiet a few people, that have well defined likes and dislikes. Such as, you couldn't give me a Savage rifle, with a gun at my head. Others love the rifle.
I'd like bolt action and was checking out the Remington Titanium. I'm not looking to win olympic contests, nor do I want to shell out a few grand. I'm keeping in mind that a nice scope will probably cost more than the rifle itself. I'm looking for something that is relatively high quality without the price, I would like something common that's easy to fix/get parts for, etc., nothing exotic that I have to have customed machined or anything.
I have over thirty scoped rifles from 22 LR to .30-06's, all of these rifles wear Leupold scopes. For me, Leupold is the only way to go, because of their proven quality, and their life-time guarantee. If you bought a used Leupold, and it was bad, send it to Leupold and they will put it right, for free.
I've seen leupold and nikon thrown around here too. So any thoughts/comments on that would be great too.
Again, thanks for your time and posts.
Rich - They are going for about $1650.00.Rich Z said:
Bill - that SPR, Special Police Rifle sounds interesting. Expensive?
An interesting rifle worthy of consideration.mrostov said:If I were getting a new bolt action in .308 right now, I'd get a No4 MkIV made by AIA - Australian International Arms.
They are a beefed up SMLE No4 MkII action made specifically for the .308 round. The No4 MkII was the last model used by the British military in the 1950's. It has an improved trigger assembly that is mounted to the receiver instead of the trigger guard assembly.
The AIA No4 MkIV is a souped up MkII made of a more modern steel and strengthened for the .308 round.
They also have a modernized magwell and mag release for a quick change of 5, 10, and 20 round M-14 compatible mags. The rifles come with 10 round M-14 mags. The original SMLE was made to normally be loaded with stripper clips with the priginal intent of the mag being taken out normally only for cleaning.
They also have built in iron peep sights and a removable M1913 Picatinny rail for mounting optics.
The SMLE is a fast firing bolt action with a short stroke bolt that only needs to rotate 60 degrees instead of the 90 degrees of your typical Mauser style rifle (most commercial hunting rifles).
As Garand can testify, the SMLE functions well in the harshest climates, including sub-zero temps. The Canadian Army's Rangers, their equivalent to our Eskimo Scouts, are still armed with the SMLE because of the harshness of the climate. The Canadians still keep an SMLE in the survival gear of their C130 transport aircraft.
The SMLE was designed for combat and it will keep trucking when other rifles just choke up and die on you. You can also reload it a lot faster than a commercial bolt action. The main problem with aimed fire from a bolt action in a fight often isn't the rate of fire but the rate of reload.
The importer is TriStar and the starting price, brand new, is about US$760.
Rich:Rich Z said:Bill - did you check out those FN rifles on Gunsamerica? Were they what you were looking for?
The above is true. I just wouldn't want to pay an addition $100.00 plus dollars to have the Sako extractor installed in it.Hard Rock said:If you want a great shooter out of the box, get a Remington 700 LTR in .308. I've shot and seen literally dozens of them shot and not one has performed worse than 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards.
Remington has a great little setup in that rifle and it's running with some of the big dogs.
Bill, did you ever get one of those SPRs? I read a real interesting review about this gun and it's caught my interest. I can't seem to find many of them for sale, though. Just wondering if you got one and what you thought of it if you did.Stillwater said:Rich:
The one for $1275.00 is an SPR, the other on wasn't.
My deal with the local gun emporium is a good bit less than $1275.00. I have been buying from this shop since 1960, so I get the good guys price on what I buy. The owner of the store, is the son of the man, who started the business. His father and I, were best friends for many years.