Re: target and fun
I'm looking at the .308 instead of the 30-06 for economic reasons. I just picked up a Remington 870 Police Mag 12g and I already have a pistol so now I want to get a rifle. I don't hunt (because I have albertsons for that but, that doesn't mean I condone nor disapprove of hunting).
My personal opinion is if you hunt and kill, you should eat it. I'm not into wasting. Anywho, enough of my thoughts. I'm here to hear your guys thoughts.
No one can disagree with those statements, certainly not me.
What's a good rifle for some long range shooting? The ranges here are 150-300, I do have access to 800-1000 but that's after the range shuts down and I happen to know/volunteer with the guys that run the shop.
If you want to shoot at a thousand yards, you need one of the thirty caliber magnums, or a .30-338. Although the .30-06 has been successfully used at those ranges.
To succesfully shoot at one thousand yards, the bullet needs to still be sonic, (faster than the sound barrier, which is 1167 fps at sea level, at 59ºF, At 29.92 inches of mercury, barometric pressure) at that range. The weight of the bullet, you use, will determine which caliber would be best for you to use, usually.
I'd like bolt action and was checking out the Remington Titanium. I'm not looking to win olympic contests, nor do I want to shell out a few grand. I'm keeping in mind that a nice scope will probably cost more than the rifle itself. I'm looking for something that is relatively high quality without the price, I would like something common that's easy to fix/get parts for, etc., nothing exotic that I have to have customed machined or anything.
There are many good bolt actions on the market, what you will hear here is the private opinions of quiet a few people, that have well defined likes and dislikes. Such as, you couldn't give me a Savage rifle, with a gun at my head. Others love the rifle.
I personally prefer Winchester bolt action rifles. Others will favor Remington. It's a Ford and Chevy thing. I like the new Rugers too.
Ruger, when they started out producing rifles, used Douglas barrels, and they could really shoot well. Then Ruger started using barrels made by the cheapest supplier and their accuracy went into the toilet. Now, Ruger has built their own hammer-forged barrel facility, and their accuracy seems to have came back. I have a Ruger 308, laminated stock, stainless, heavy barrel rifle, with accuracy that impresses me.
When you say economic reasons, that limits your selection quiet a bit. If it were me, and if I could do it, I would put off the rifle purchase until I could afford one of the better names of rifles, and which of course are much pricier.
FN, Fabriqe National, now owns US Repeating arms, which owns Winchester, has made a model called the SPR, Special Police Rifle. I have read five or six tests, of the rifle, from people whose opinions I respect. In every one of those tests, the rifle, in .308 caliber, has shot into a half an inch at one hundred yards, right out of the box. That is mighty unusual in anybodys language.
I've seen leupold and nikon thrown around here too. So any thoughts/comments on that would be great too.
Again, thanks for your time and posts.
I have over thirty scoped rifles from 22 LR to .30-06's, all of these rifles wear Leupold scopes. For me, Leupold is the only way to go, because of their proven quality, and their life-time guarantee. If you bought a used Leupold, and it was bad, send it to Leupold and they will put it right, for free.
Now having said all of that, I haven't heard any negative comments on Nikon, but I have on many of the other brands.
If you buy a .308 rifle, a good scope for it is the Leupold VARI-AX III 3.5X10X40 M3, with side focus parallax adjustment. These M3 scopes have BDC (Bullet Drop Compensator) cams that closely approximate the trajectory characteristics of the .223, .308, .30-06 and the 300 Winchester magnum, at the standard book velocities for those cartridges.