.357 magnum chrono test with common loads

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John in AR

Discussion Starter · 1 mo ago

The previous .357 chronograph test I did was with less-common loads, including Underwood and Buffalo Bore. This is testing much more common loads; loads you would typically find over-the-counter in your big box stores.

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BigEd

· #2 · 1 mo ago

Thanks for posting this John. Good data on what to expect ballistics wise for .357 fired out of a lever action.
I'm still seriously planning on getting a Henry side loading lever action rifle for certain carry purposes.
And possibly a 1873 variation for competition afterwards.

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John in AR

Discussion Starter · #3 · 1 mo ago

If I were in the market, I’d be looking at Henry’s too; especially their X model with polymer stock and threaded barrel.

I’ve mentioned the extreme compactness of the 16” 1892 before, especially when talking to gunkid, but not sure if I ever posted a picture to illustrate it. It literally is smaller than a .22lr ruger 10-22:

Yet with factory .357 ammo it usually runs 1100-1300 ft/lbs of power, and if you suppress it, subsonic .38 loads give roughly milspec .45acp power with the sound signature of a pellet gun or pneumatic nail gun.

Because of the short ranges involved when taking deer in our area, if someone made a .357 carbine fed from a detachable magazine, it could pretty much fulfill any ‘rifle’ needs in my life. More muzzle energy than a 5.56 (with admittedly less range); more compact than (and same weight as) a 10-22 rimfire; and also able to quietly take nuisance animals with suppressed subsonics. If a person doesn’t need to shoot more than 100-125 yards and doesn’t need to shoot anything much bigger than a deer, a .357 carbine could likely work as the ‘one rifle’ solution for them imo.

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Garand

· #4 · 1 mo ago

I'd recommend the Chiappa M92 "Alaskan" very well build. I love my Canadian 12" version

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John in AR

Discussion Starter · #5 · 28 d ago

That chiappa is a sweet setup. A 16” (US-legal) version of that takedown would be seriously cool, so out of curiosity I checked out their website. Their Wildlands takedown version looks pretty close to a perfect gun for my purposes - .357 magnum with 16.5” threaded barrel, peep & fiber-optic sights, and integral rail for red dot or compact scope.

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But as neat as it looks, I have to pass. I figure 50-70% chance that five years from now I won’t own firearms other than ones left stored with family members, so no point buying more at this stage. But for someone looking for a ban-resistant carbine capable of defensive, predator-control, and many hunting purposes, it could be a pretty good choice. Would be nice if they hadn’t limited the capacity to 5+1, but not a total deal-killer imo. In the .357 magnum caliber, with a decent red dot and thoughtful ammo selection, it could do a whole lot.

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Garand

· #6 · 28 d ago

One thing I personally don't like is the large "John Wayne" loop lever. I've tried them in competition and they only result in additional times to run the action.

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BigEd

· #7 · 27 d ago

Yeah, I got mixed feelings about them. I like the proportions of the standard one on the reproduction 1895 I used to have. And the 336 Marlin I had owned. Never ever should have sold either but who has a crystal ball?

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Garand

· #8 · 27 d ago

One thing that amazes me about my Chiappa, is that it eats anything consistently. A lot of other levers I have owned had to be tweeked by a gunsmith to achieve that.

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BigEd

· #9 · 8 d ago

John in AR said:
If I were in the market, I’d be looking at Henry’s too; especially their X model with polymer stock and threaded barrel.

I’ve mentioned the extreme compactness of the 16” 1892 before, especially when talking to gunkid, but not sure if I ever posted a picture to illustrate it. It literally is smaller than a .22lr ruger 10-22:
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Yet with factory .357 ammo it usually runs 1100-1300 ft/lbs of power, and if you suppress it, subsonic .38 loads give roughly milspec .45acp power with the sound signature of a pellet gun or pneumatic nail gun.

Because of the short ranges involved when taking deer in our area, if someone made a .357 carbine fed from a detachable magazine, it could pretty much fulfill any ‘rifle’ needs in my life. More muzzle energy than a 5.56 (with admittedly less range); more compact than (and same weight as) a 10-22 rimfire; and also able to quietly take nuisance animals with suppressed subsonics. If a person doesn’t need to shoot more than 100-125 yards and doesn’t need to shoot anything much bigger than a deer, a .357 carbine could likely work as the ‘one rifle’ solution for them imo.

That's exactly what I was looking at Friday afternoon up in Springdale at the Ozark Armory. Nice handy feeling rifle ....well carbine. If they still have it when I close on the property I'll probably run up there and grab one as soon as the money clears into my bank account.

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