[andy]

nobody claims that .38lrn has any special "cavitation" effect on people. In fact, nobody but an ignorant old fool claims that .30 Carbine ball had/has such an effect.

 

[polesmoker]

blah blah blah old old old rehash rehash rehash.

How's your website coming along idea man?

You know the website that you had a gal going on building for you starting first thing 10-27-2004? The website you said was going to be up "this coming Friday" that day being Friday 19 December 2003?

The website that you were going to clear $30k a year on?

The website that on 03-25-2004 you said

it''ll be up soon now

.


:laugh01:

 

[Garand]

Tell us about the $800 a month SSI that your getting and what the shrink told you in FCI Phoniex(sp)??

 

[RIKA]

Gunkid's only ability is to brag about himself and stir up trouble. Forget about websites and making real money - he has SSI.

RIKA

 

[Hard Ball]

Are you really so stupid that you actually think that a bullet with an MV of 800 fps has the same terminal ballistic chatacteristic as a bullet striking at 1,900 fps?
Your ignorancr is utterly apalling!

 

[John in AR]

I don’t really have a “dog in this fight” and haven’t performed any tests with either .30C ball or .38spl ball, but I would suspect a valid analogy would be .22LR vs .223 or even 223-vs-.223subsonic.

The 5.56 55-grain fmj is a very good anti-personnel round, but the same bullet at .22lr or .223 subsonic velocities wouldn’t be nearly as effective; due to differences in energy (and therefore cavitation & destruction). We’re talking 1200 ft/lbs vs 150 ft/lbs; obviously relevant, even though the projectile is identical. The bullet shape is the same, but cavitation and destruction are VERY different.

With the .38spl vs .30C issue, you’re comparing loads with around 225 and 975 ft/lbs, respectively. Not as dramatic a difference, but still very relevant. That’s why the carbine is such a limited-range gun. Because at 200 yards or even less, it loses three-fourths of its power, and then you’re right, it probably IS no better than the .38 special is at the muzzle.

(That said, while obviously not my first choice, a .38 spl lrn at muzzle contact distance could still rearrange your world.)