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and you've got enough for 3 seasons, for a week or more of no hostilities. upgrading to long term, 4 seasons, adds another 12 lbs., and if you add in hostilities, you have to add another 20 lbs. Things go to hell really quick and your load gets stupid heavy even faster.
 

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Based on what experience in the bush?
 

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and you've got enough for 3 seasons, for a week or more of no hostilities. upgrading to long term, 4 seasons, adds another 12 lbs., and if you add in hostilities, you have to add another 20 lbs. Things go to hell really quick and your load gets stupid heavy even faster.
You really should get out and try to do some of the things you read about and think will work. Just from your postings and some observations I know you never get more than concrete to look at on a daily basis. Try spending some time in the real outdoors and then talk survival.
 
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