Firearm Forums - Arms Locker banner

1 - 12 of 12 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
420 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Looking fro recomendations for a 44 SPC for self defense, 44SPC for practice, 44MAG for back up for dangerous game and 44MAG for practice.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,960 Posts
For the .44 spl uses, you might look at the taurus 445 series. Five-shot snubnose, more stoutly built than the charter arms guns. I recently picked up a used 450, which is the .45 colt version of that series and am very impressed with it.

They also make (or made) a model called the 44C, which is much like the 445 but in .44 mag rather than special.

This is the 450; the 445 is identical:


[Edited to add pic]
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
420 Posts
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Let me clarify...

I'm looking at S&W model 29 with 6 1/2". It's for when I'm out in the woods if I have the misfortune to walk up on an aggressive bear or feral pig or if I went hunting for squirl and up in front of me is the perfect deer or similar. I don't intend to go pistol hunting or for it to be my primary defense if I suspect dangerous game is in the vicinity. It is what it is, in my opinion a side arm, the final defense firearm when there is nothing else avalible.

It's also intended to do double duty for full size handgun self defense for me or my family when my 45ACP is not avalible (such as the 44's at home while I'm out with the 45)

So I'm looking for the best of the best ammo to stop big dangerous game in 44 mag and something to practice with, perhaps reload in 44 mag. Also I've heard in 44SPC Winchester Silver tips are the best for self defense. Naturally I'm looking for a good 44SPC to practice and perhaps reload too.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,960 Posts
I misunderstood; didn't realize you meant loads, not guns. On that, no real help. I load on both sides of the .44 magnum (.45LC, .454Casull), but no experience with the .44 specfically.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
420 Posts
Discussion Starter · #5 · (Edited)
John,

It was me not being specific enough. 45LC and 454Casull I haven't gotten into yet but I'd like to try. OK if it goes bang I'd like to try it, but anyway. Mainly I haven't gotten into those rounds because they aren't as easy to pick up at Wal-mart nationwide. Of course 45ACP is that way now so go figure.

I'm finding: Federal 300 grain CastCore (VitaShok) load in 44MAG are good for back woods defense and almost everywhere I read most 44SPC is expensive the only way around is reloading. Does anyone have an inexpensive 44mag round they'd like to recommend? Or is it pretty much the same expense-wise as 44SPC (better to reload)?

I also discovered the 44 S&W Russian works too! Maybe everyone else already knew that but it's new to me. I see that it's rarer and more expensive still than 44SPC & 44MAG but my curiosity up so I'll probably order a box. In that fuzzy time known as "the future", when I start reloading, when the cases start to split in the mouth on MAGs I can shorten them to SPCs and the SPCs to RUSs!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
9,760 Posts
My .44 Magnum Cowboy action load is 5.3 grains of W231 pushing a 240 grain RNFP bullet. While it won't stop a rhino at 3 yards, it will knock over a steel "pepper popper". It doesn't cause wear on the pistol either. One of my old style Ruger Vaqueros has in excess of 20,000 rds through it with this load.

I've loaded .44 special with 4.8 grains of W231 for roughly the same muzzle velocity, but since brass is more difficult to find on a regular basis, I've stuck with the magnum cartridge case.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,277 Posts
Since it's for self defense then any .44 load like Garand's 240gr flat point at 800 fps will do fine.

The orgional 'civilian' .45 Long Colt load was a 255 at 900+. The army load was the same weight but at 860 fps.

So that .44 laod will do the deed quite well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
432 Posts
The thing I've found with lead handloads is that over @1000fps they melt lead like crazy... I have used gas checks on some loads and that helped quite a bit...
How about giving Elmer Keiths loads a try?
Using a handgun with magna-porting will put a lot of lead out those holes as well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
420 Posts
Discussion Starter · #10 ·
Got a S&W 629-1 today!

Picked up some Speer Gold Dot for self defense and a few other bits and pieces.

On the get list are:
  • UltraMax 44 Russian 200 grn to compare with SPC & MAG power and accuracy
  • Federal Vita Shok 44 Magnum 300 grn cast core for back woods defense
  • I’m looking to pick up Magtech in 44 mag in bulk for general practice and reloading since it's the cheapest familiar name I can find.
  • A holster
  • Some speed loaders with pouches

I'll tell you all about it after I get to the range.
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,960 Posts
Good lord; couldn't you find a gun with a longer barrel...?

Wave that thing around recklessly, you might swat down low-flying planes... :nyah:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
420 Posts
Discussion Starter · #12 ·
got back from the range

This 44mag is sweet!

Hardly any kick and accurate!

Still looking for an inexpensive re-loadable bulk 44mag.
 
1 - 12 of 12 Posts
Top