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by MANY a year, odds are 100 to 1. With even just average hunting and marksmanship, 90% kills on small game, to 30m, means 450 small critters to eat. That's a year's supply of flesh food, for 2 people. Have some sense, and shoot SOME dogs, cattle, deer,etc, shoot a few of same with 223, catch SOME stuff with snares, traps, nets, trotlines, and you stetch those 22's out to 30 years.

200 rds of 22lr will last a couple of years, easily and by then, any survivor will have "recovered" many hundreds more rds of .22's, from the dead. .22 ammo will be PRIME barter material, as will .22 silencers. Unlike the idiots of today, the survivors will KNOW how deadly-effective such gear is. So the bow and arrow and slingshot crap is a waste of time and money. So is the "1 MOA" .22 rifle bs.

make up your silly mind. either the 3" groups at 20 yds of the bow is adequate for taking game, or you need .5" groups at 50 yds, which makes the bow WORTHLESS.

If have the LUXURY of wasting an entire day stalking within 10 ft of a rabbit, NECESSARY to head hit him with slingshot and rock, and another day finding 10 suitable rocks, you COULD have done a LOT of far more necessary and effective things. so the entire idea is just stupid. Leave the slings and the bows to the 007- Rambo wannabees who specialize in "secret -compartments" in their boots,etc. :)
 

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I said slingshot, with ROCKS, and that DOES require head shots, and it DOES require being within 10 ft. I have $5000 to your $500 that says NOBODY can get 9 out of 10 hits, on a 1" mark, at 15 ft, with a slingshot, using naturally found rocks. :)

With a bow you can MAKE, arrows you can MAKE, taking small game, RELIABLY, when shtf conditions of hunger, fear, depression, exhaustion are what's up, no you will NOT take small game at more than about 50 ft. The main use for slingbow is frogs, fish, maybe livestock,and all that's required is the little alloy rod for nocking the arrows, the rubber fletch, a broadhead, and 2 hunks of surgical tubing (which has OTHER uses in the BOB) a bow is a VERY large, fairly heavy item. It and a dozen arrows (EASILY lost, damaged) weigh a MORE than 1000 rds of .22lr, which will suffice to feed a family for 40 years or more,and offer silence, rapidfire, and the .22 unit in the AR offers night sights, and low cost, quiet PRACTICE with the fighting rifle, NOW. Such practice is at LEAST as enjoyable as dicking around with bow and arrow, and it's 100x as likely to be of real VALUE, too.

No, u AINT gonna carry both an auto rifle AND a modern bow, post shtf, and if you are stupid enough to be WITHOUT your auto rifle, ever, you wont last long.
 

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yeah, right. you can spend WEEKS, exposed to the enemy, in daylight, just LOOKING for proper bow and arrow materials, in MANY areas. Anyone who's ever TRIED it knows this to be true. with the tools available to you, post shtf, it will take ANOTHER week to make them, and it takes MANY hours of time, NOW, to learn to make and use ,them, when you AINT very good with a gun, and are HELPLESS at hand to hand stuff. you have your training priorities ALL screwed up.
 

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why don't u come to Durango, CO, and find, OUT? Whoever told you I have a bad back, etc, is fos. let's SEE you, under shtf conditions, make a bow, string, a dozen arrows, some with big game heads, in less than a week, twit. You will be busy evading enemies, trying to boil water, etc, etc, etc. :) There were 2.5-3 million Indians here when Columbus landed. There's 100x that many people here now. All they had to worry about was the 50m (TOPS) range of a bow and ignorant savage shooting it. Today, you'd BETTER worry about the 500m range of a scoped rifle.
 
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