[andy]

dont even TRY. If I worked at it, with bait, jacklighting, etc, the number would be 500, and I could snare as many more. Those who "think" that they "need" 308 to take big game, shtf survival, are just inept, period.

 

[Garand]

I get within 20 meters of deer, elk and antelope 5 days a week. No big thing, the training area I work in has been designated a World Wildlife Preserve! But it will be a different story if the balloon ever goes up. And the fantasy continues..............................