[andy]

and the 10" 223 hanload still has that much velocity left at 200m. Some of the varment sp's and hp's will still expand well at 1600 fps, too. So don't KID yourself that the shorty 223, if it's loaded properly, aint got plenty of power, to any range where such power is needed. you dont NEED an instant stop beyond 200m. He can't hit your bobbing head or dodging torso beyond that range(except by pure LUCK)BEFORE he is wounded, and that IS the only target that you should be presenting him, anyway. A 400 ft lbs, expanding bullet to the chest is a MEAN blow, plenty enough "distrction" to render him unable to aim and squeeze, and his blood pressure will be dropping like a rock. So it aiint like you have to stay behind cover, or keep dodging, very long at all. What do you CARE that he can still flop around, for a minute or 2, after he takes such a hit? compared to not having a .22 unit, concealment, GI rifle rd, lw, compactness, silencer, etc, not having 1000 ft lbs left at 1/4 mile is NOTHING.

 

[DJetAce]

Web gear likely to make your SP round fly appart before entering the other shooter. Any brush will do the same. And when you run out of your precious SP the 10" POSCAR becomes a pretty worthless POS (and that's why it is named a POSCAR!) The GI round in a POSCAR is so pithetic it isn't worth spit. No fragmentation at all. So if you use SPs you can't hack brush, and if you use FMJ, you don't hit a blow worth a damn. The POSCAR is a real POS.

 

[mrostov]

The 11.5" 5.56mm barrel tends to very inaccurate due to several factors, including excessive muzzle blast. It's primarily a CQB weapon. Even the Israelis, who use a lot of them, only use them for CQB.

Only someone with minimal to zero long range shooting experience advocates short barrels with excessively hot loads for such purposes.