get. 26.o-27.0 grs of AA2520, depending upon the barrel. That's 970 ft lbs, about what a 6" .44 mag revolver gets. The 6" .44 has taken every animal that walks,many times over, with video and witnesses to prove it, and yet wussies "think" a 223 can't reliably take coyotes beyond 200m, and that an 11" 223 can't do so beyond 100m. I got news for such ignoramuses.