[boati]

along with assuring that almost no light excapes from a Dakota fire pit, helping to cook stuff like veggies with just a wood fire, it's also a great fire 'reflector" (really just something to draw the smoke away from your shelter). The PEVA plastic is not as windproof as construction plastic. So, if can't arrange something else, tape together 3 strips of foil 6 ft long, under you, up the windward side of you ( in between the PEVA and SOL Escape bags) over the top of you a bit, and you wont feel the wind at ALL.

 

[John in AR]

Experimentation is good, but keep in mind that aluminum foil is both noisy and fragile.

 

[Garand]

In a tactical situation, noise, reflection off the surface of foil, fragility, and the ability to carry large quantities that would be required to sustain you for days, months, years is stupid. Given your location, just invest in a good 3 season sleeping bag and waterproof bivy. What does wifey think about her being wrapped up in foil like a cheap steak?

 

[boati]

isn't always cold, dumbasses, nor windy. Wife doesn't figure into these calculations at all, People with dependents are just effed if shtf.

 

[Garand]

Does wifey know of your undying love for her?

 

[John in AR]

aluminum foil blocks the wind just fine along with assuring that almost no light excapes from a Dakota fire pit, helping to cook stuff like veggies with just a wood fire, it's also a great fire 'reflector" (really just something to draw the smoke away from your shelter). The PEVA plastic is not as windproof as construction plastic. So, if can't arrange something else, tape together 3 strips of foil 6 ft long, under you, up the windward side of you ( in between the PEVA and SOL Escape bags) over the top of you a bit, and you wont feel the wind at ALL.

Experimentation is good, but keep in mind that aluminum foil is both noisy and fragile.

isn't always cold, dumbasses, nor windy. Wife doesn't figure into these calculations at all, People with dependents are just effed if shtf.

Based on the fact that only two of us (Garand and I) have responded in this thread, and the fact that you used the plural 'dumbasses' means you're calling me a dumbass. A drug-dependent senior citizen, who believes that sleeping on top of multiple strips of aluminum foil in the woods is a viable bugout strategy, calling me a dumbass. Thank you; you genuinely made me chuckle on a Monday morning.

To reiterate, I simply (and completely civilly) pointed out the objective reality that aluminum foil is both noisy and fragile; which are very bad traits for shtf gear, especially in a "hide in the wilderness" approach as you espouse. It's also shiny & reflective, which are equally bad things in your approach.

I hope you have a nice day, John. I had fun yesterday working on 9-foot wall framing on the upper level of our house, playing with my wife's cat, and shooting at the pond afterward while keeping an eye on the burn pile where lumber scraps were being disposed of. Nothing new or fancy, just my edc glock 43, and it was enjoyable.


The fact that you have a wife doesn't factor into your plans for a shtf situation? That's both sad and juvenile. It'll never be possible for you to be genuinely happy until you genuinely care about somebody.

 

[Garand]

Melvin, by not considering others in your "plan", as usual you have set yourself up for failure in anything you try. It is really that simple. Living on just "Tang" & peanut butter didn't cut it 20+ years ago and it won't now.

 

[boati]

**** you, punk. I did so for 6 weeks, along with a multivitamin mineral pill while working out intensely at Terminal Island, and saw no degradation of performance. As usual, you can't ****ing read. I made no claim that it would suffice forever, but it suffices for quite a spell. It's cheap, available anywhere, wont spoil, no need to cook it, no real prep requires, wont freeze, wont lock up your guts.

 

[OSOKILL]

something else you all need to consider is that cooking with aluminum foil puts the aluminum in your food and its known to cause health issues... like dementia... alzheimer's etc.

might explain a lot eh

 

[Garand]

Well Melvin, since your planning on dumping wifey, she must be a pretty bad trigger puller if you can't even think positively in that aspect.

 

[John in AR]

...tape together 3 strips of foil 6 ft long, under you, up the windward side of you ( in between the PEVA and SOL Escape bags) over the top of you a bit, and you wont feel the wind at ALL.

At least this one is a two-fer; a combination of Topics I and K. :laugh:

 

[boati]

I gave up on the Escape bivvy. it's just too small and expensive, for what it is. The 2 person emergency bivvy is half the weight, twice the size, half the price, reflects more body heat and stops the wind and rain better. It's not breathable, but the inner bag made of Wally's absorbent painter's drop cloth deals with the condensation famously, and it also offers a bit of insulative effect, for $5 and half a lb or less. It's quite flammable, soaks up water like TP and is nearly as flimsy, but hey, what do you want for $5? Since I added the foil, it does a fine job. I got some Russian winter foot wraps to try out, but it wont be cold again before xmas. They offer the option of 4 different places on them to put the sole of your foot, so by the time you've used all 4, the first one has (probably) dried out. They are much easier to wash and dry out than socks and much lighter and less bulky than 4 pairs of socks, too. Given that the sleep and shelter gear can be worn as ponchos, the longjohns, like the one pair of wool socks, will be reserved for "sleep-only" use, so that they dont get perspired-in (much). I want to try out having a buttpack serve as the support for a day pack, putting the weight on my hips, so that I dont need a frame in the main pack. I've now used the trekking poles enough to know that they definitely belong in the BOB. Ditto the UCO candle lantern and beeswax candles.