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sweep hand timer would record draw, or even just reaction times, .03 second faster than would be shown by the new electronic timers. This was in 1978, when I bought the old style timer from him. It offered either "self start" button hold down timing (ie, no reaction time involved) or random start after hitting the button (reaction time involved) The electronic timers only offer the latter. With hte Khrondek, I many times held down the timer button with my fist, "chambered" above my hip, and struck a shoulder ht, full arm extention "focused" punch on the `1/16" sheet metal torso (used with wax ammo and a microphone, to record the hit-times) in .12 second. If Bob was correct, the full extention of the arm, and raising it 18" or so, took .15 second.Obviously, a draw from a proper rig can be done in very similar time, expecially if the arm is not extended for the "hip point" shot. Add in your .20 or so reaction time, and you get sub .40 second for a hip point shot, with reaction time, from "hand hovering over gun" draw start, in pretty short order. "hand to gun" time, say from hands at sides, should add no more than another .10 second, and with enough practice, perhaps no extra time at all. Getting a HIT, with reaction and draw, with such a time, with live ammo, however, is a pretty thrilling thing. I did so, sub .50 second, a very few times, with a speed rig, and it was a pretty hairy experience. Range was 3 ft. Cocked and locked SA auto, too. With a DA revolver, you might slice a bit of time off of that, and maybe even be a bit "safer" from firing too soon (if the draw "snagged" somehow) because of the "feel" of the heavier DA trigger. All I was doing was slapping off the safety and yanking the trigger.

At arm's length, as I said, it's no great feat to react and punch a guy's face in, in less than .40 second. Ditto react and slap aside HIS weapon, "buying" you more time in which to do OTHER things. So, basically, if the crap starts at much under 10 ft, and your gun is ccw'd under a coat or shirt, a hand to hand response is likely to be just as fast, or faster, if you are AGILE and trained, as any ccw draw and hit will be, and again, if trained, your strike is a LOT more likely to be decisive than is a hit with typcial handgun ammo. A good side kick will cave your sternum and ribs in on your heart and lungs, or bend your knee BACKWARDS, ya know.
 

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Gunkid, this is Rika's Dad. I'm 58 years old and I can't do the many things that I could do 20 years ago. I know that you're 52 years old and have bad back and knees. Why don't you tell us about what you can do now instead of all that stuff in the past. How are you training now since you're taking medication, wear eyeglasses, have health problems and a bad back and knees.

Your comments would be appreciated for all the men my age and older.

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Who is "Arganbright"?, and why are we qouting something from 26yrs ago?. If I was close enough to slap the BD then I would slap, but I would have been in a bad position, by letting a potential hostile get that close. I try my best to stay on alert in town and where I live my neighbors aren't a problem, and I usually do not have to worry.
 

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Half Elf, Bob Arganbright is a gun writer but I can't remember for what magazine. He was some kinda fast draw expert in the 70's or something. GK kinda knows him and throws his name around like they are best buddies.

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Thank You, I was curious I see posts all the time mentioning people by first name or surname only and do not know them , so I ask.
 

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Actually, his wife and I were lovers for many years, he raised my daughter. He has been SA revolver National champ at standing wax fast draw several times, he writes the holster column for Combat Handguns.

Dunno where you got the idea that I have health problems or a bad back. The knees can't take what they used to , but the speed is still there for the hands. Bill Jordan was still demoing tremendous draw speed in his 50's. I can still kick just fine, but I can't be snapping kicks into the air much anymore. However, when I bend your knee backwards, it doesn't hurt me a bit. :)
 

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Actually, his wife and I were lovers for many years, he raised my daughter. He has been SA revolver National champ at standing wax fast draw several times, he writes the holster column for Combat Handguns.

Dunno where you got the idea that I have health problems or a bad back. The knees can't take what they used to , but the speed is still there for the hands. Bill Jordan was still demoing tremendous draw speed in his 50's. I can still kick just fine, but I can't be snapping kicks into the air much anymore. However, when I bend your knee backwards, it doesn't hurt me a bit. :)
Are you saying you fathered the girl? Take good care of her? Send her to college and all that? I did. But my daughter had my name. What a truly worthless person you must be to brag about something like that.
 

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andy said:
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Now, now, let's be professionals here.
 

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Personally, I have nothing but contempt for someone that would abandon their child. It indicates a complete lack of moral fibre.
 

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It was all the choice of her mother, I wasn't bragging, and it's NONE of your business.
Sure you were bragging, why else mention it? And if it's nobody's business but yours, why would you post it on the Internet? Does this alleged daughter of your's know she's got your genes? If so, she probably desperately needs counseling.
 
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