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AINT 270,000 people in US who are properly prepared. I doublt that there's 27,000, actually. YOU can always be found, since there's a road to your place, NOISE at your place, and hundreds of people already know about it, and you ARE dumb enough to stay there,it IS above ground, and you DO have pleny of livestock, dogs, etc, to attract lots of attention.

You aint GOT any mines, etc,and the animals will 'trip" them. Dogs barking can be heard for miles, and they bark at the animals, etc, too. That is just as much of a handicap as their "warnings" can be a help. Plus you have to FEED and water the pos's.

See, you clowns "think" that there will be some sort of time limit on how quickly the predators HAVE to get to you. Wrong, they can take all the time they NEED, skipping some places, moving on to the next,reversing directions, etc. Why not? there's nothing MAKING them move in any given direction, at any given speed.

Not only that, but the enemy is HIGHLY likely to be somebody who lives within a day's walkof you. There's HUNDREDS, if not thousands of people who live within a 20mile radious of you, and less than .1 of 1% are prepared. so they won't have any CHOICE but to get on the trail, TRYING to get supplies, etc.
 

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Actually there is a time limit, it's commonly referred to as 'winter'. Winter is good for eradicating parasites.

There's one big problem with your misconceptions - most people are not sociopaths.
 

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It's kind of ironic you think that the ill prepared will be capable of hundeds of miles of hard travel fighting and foraging as they go. Hell, you think you are prepared and you haven't been out overnight all summer.

Yet the prepared are just as helpless as baby ducklings at thier hands, it's hard for me to imagine how you got so twisted in the head. I chock it up to lack of real world experience, you don't understand the bond of family because you don't have one. You don't understand friendship and loyalty, because you have to be a loyal friend to have loyal friends.

How bought just one example of things working out as you propose?

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Teufelhund said:
How bought just one example of things working out as you propose?
Prison Riot - If you look at it, you'll notice that the basis for all of his assumptions about 'shtf' is what happens in a prison riot within the enclosed, artificial environment of a prison.

The rapid, sudden, spontaneous eruption, the immediate, universal indulgence of mindless violence for petty resources, everyone for themselves, etc.
 
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Without the guards to enforce order, the prisoners will be at each other's throats paying back old grudges and many will die. I see most of them becoming hobos, traveling some. working odd jobs if they can find one and begging scraps of food. Without low riders, dope to sell and ho's to push around they won't amount to much. The ones who try thug tactics will receive quick terminal justice and will be lucky to get a burial. They cannot survive without city life and soft sheeple to prey on.

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