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Does anybody know where to get that ballistic gelatin that is used for ammo testing? Is there any way to make it at home?

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Could you post the web site?

In other posts I read that the gelatin has to be kept at a specific temperature, 40 F or something.

I also read somewhere but I can't remember where that there is a new ballistic gelatin that doesn't have to be chilled and used quickly once it is out of the cooler.

What did you find?

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Hmm, wonder if you could mix this stuff with gasoline? Then hit it with an incendiary round. Probably would make a spectacular fireball! Then burn the woods down around you. :bomb:

You know this brought a thought to mind that is going to go way off topic here.

But I thought I read years ago that aviation fuel was being designed to gel during crashes to prevent fireball explosions of the gas tanks. Was that just something being proposed at the time? On thinking about the WTC 9/11 attack, it certainly did not look like any sort of explosion suppression of the fuel took place then.

Sorry about dragging this off topic. Just one of those off tangent thoughts that pop into my head here and there.....
 

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I found it through www.google.com and just typed in ballistic gelatin. Somebody had wrote up the recipe. Sounded like a lot of crap to mix it up. Me and a friend have used gallon milk jugs full of water. He shot a 230 gr Black Talon into one and it formed out perfect. I think that it went through 6 of the jugs before it stopped. I thought it would be cool to have a bunch of hollow points that were spred out, it would make for good talk. Ok so now start savin' those milk jugs and get to shootin'.

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it's bs, anyway. 10% jello is supposed

to simulate hog muscle. Well, a man's chest has almost no muscle in it, other than the heart. So shoot animals instead. You will find that loads that expand just great in jello don't expand much, if at all, in flesh and blood. Expecially the sub 1000 fps jhp's.
 

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Did anyone come up with the formula for ballistic gelatin that they wouldn't mind posting here? I'm curious to try out those hollow point 5.7x28 rounds to see how they perform.
 

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AmmoLab sells it.

You can make your own ballistic test media at home. It's not perfect, but you can sure learn from it.
 

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The supply of animals to use for testing is rather limited around here. I prefer to use the gelatin, thank you. Whole lot less messy than digging around in a dog's carcass to check out the projectile's path.

Perhaps you could embed wooden dowel rods to emulate bones in the gelatin.

No one has a formula for this stuff?
 

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KNOX sells it, and you can get the formula several places, to include Marshall andSanow's books on stopping power.
 

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however,it has to be HELD at 38+degrees F, or it's not up to snuff. You have to have a chronograph, and calibrate the jello, with a 450 fps bb "rifle" hit, up in one corner of the block, and it must penetrate between 3-4" (or some such, never bothered to notice how much) or your results have NOTHING in common with the other data 'collected" in "properly-calibrated" jello. :) You have to transport each block to the range in a cooler, shoot it right away, before it gets "hot", etc, HUGE pita, or the "test" result is meaningless.
 

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38 degrees? Heck, here in north Florida, that means I would have only a handful of NIGHTS or early mornings when I could use the stuff.

Shoot......
 

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Rich Z said:
But I thought I read years ago that aviation fuel was being designed to gel during crashes to prevent fireball explosions of the gas tanks. Was that just something being proposed at the time? On thinking about the WTC 9/11 attack, it certainly did not look like any sort of explosion suppression of the fuel took place then.
Never got off the ground so to speak In testing, an aircraft fueled with the stuff was crashed on purpose, it went up like napalm. I saw this on some documentary years ago. Apparently there was some reason it went up like that which was abnormal, but that one messed up test was all it took to convince people not to use the stuff. I don't know if it was ever gotten back to -maybe...
 
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