Incredibly inaccurate? Leverevolution ammunition? Damn, I guess all the deer I've killed, plus 3 bear and a carabou, might argue that point with you.
Now, none of the factory .44-40 ammunition that I've seen isn't suitable for deer, but that's due to the bullet design, not the rifle or cartridge. My handloads have take a number of one-shot kills. A friend has a Browning levergun in .308. I wouldn't call that terribly underpowered.But, stay far far away from lever action (imo) because they are incredibly inaccurate unless you wish to spend a fortune on leverevolution ammo.
Likely true. My point is simply that 1MOA leverguns can be had, in the same calibers as bolt actions. If the argument was that "most leverguns aren't as accurate as most bolt actions", I'd agree with no reservations. It's the blanket condemnation of leverguns as "incredibly inaccurate", and being therefore inadequately accurate for the topic at hand - ie deer hunting - that I take issue with; because it's demonstrably not true....it's not physically possible for a lever action to match a theoretically optimized bolt action on a number of benchmarks"...
I agree wholeheartedly.It's the blanket condemnation of leverguns as "incredibly inaccurate", and being therefore inadequately accurate for the topic at hand - ie deer hunting - that I take issue with; because it's demonstrably not true.
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One moa is much more than adequate for deer hunting, and frankly 2-moa is more than adequate as well in 99% of any circumstances we'll ever see; and I can point to three leverguns off the top of my head that regularly do that, even with off-the-shelf factory ammunition.
Are you saying that a .45acp won't do that??!!! Are you sure? Have you seen someone shot in the hand with a .45acp? Why would someone shoot the hand instead of CM is beyond me, if they are accurate enough to shoot the hand, why not go for the easier targeting area.. LOLjust hoping to dispel a myth just as I'd try to dispel the popular "a .45acp to the hand will rip their arm off"
lolz...Bummer. I wanted to argue some more... :rofl:
There you go, being reasonable and rational.... That's not allowed on the internet, young man. You're supposed to name the one "ultimate" rifle that's best for everyone and everything. You're doing it wrong.Too often novice hunters end up in the woods with a rifle that is just more of a burden than anything....
...Stay clear of Magnums - they are wholly unnecessary.
...It's really up to you to decide what type of rifle will serve best.
...Basically, any gun sold for hunting will work just fine. The Stevens, Mossberg, or an H&R Handi-Rifle work good at a small cost.
haha well since this is the internet I would suggest either one of theseThere you go, being reasonable and rational.... That's not allowed on the internet, young man. You're supposed to name the one "ultimate" rifle that's best for everyone and everything. You're doing it wrong.
(Fwiw, I agree with you completely.)
Sorry all - kind of like a 9 vs. 45 debate; sacred cows only make me want to go cow-tipping... oke: