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Who makes the best quality AR-15 rifle out there? I confess I don't know them all, but I'll try my hand at this poll thing to see if I can recall some brand names off of the top of my head.
Best quality AR-15?
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Just out of curiosity, what is the OTHER brand of AR-15 that people are voting on?
I voted on Bushmaster myself, because all the ones I have ever handled or owned were very well made, and shot to point of aim with the sites centered.
I bought an Armalite and had to screw the windage site over almost all the way to it's end of travel to get it to line up with the bullet impact. I sent the upper receiver back to Armalite. They fixed it, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I have an original Colt that I bought back around 1982 or so, that has always worked well for me, but I think if I were going to go out tomorrow and buy another AR-15, it would be a Bushmaster.
I voted on Bushmaster myself, because all the ones I have ever handled or owned were very well made, and shot to point of aim with the sites centered.
I bought an Armalite and had to screw the windage site over almost all the way to it's end of travel to get it to line up with the bullet impact. I sent the upper receiver back to Armalite. They fixed it, but it left a bad taste in my mouth.
I have an original Colt that I bought back around 1982 or so, that has always worked well for me, but I think if I were going to go out tomorrow and buy another AR-15, it would be a Bushmaster.
A, B, C, D...
Armalite
Bushmaster
Colt
DPMS
I voted "Other" as my best quality AR is the clone I built myself. there should be no reason that ANYONE can't build as good or better quality AR themselves, if selecting the proper parts to begin with! JMO
anodes.
Armalite
Bushmaster
Colt
DPMS
I voted "Other" as my best quality AR is the clone I built myself. there should be no reason that ANYONE can't build as good or better quality AR themselves, if selecting the proper parts to begin with! JMO
anodes.
I would have to say Olympic, not from pratical experance, but from the work they have done for me.
I have had them modifiy two of my guns and the workmanship was top of the line, if that translates into their manufacturing then those must be some of the fineist guns around.
I have had them modifiy two of my guns and the workmanship was top of the line, if that translates into their manufacturing then those must be some of the fineist guns around.
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I would have to go with OLYMPIC ARMS, as i have bought and sold several of thier guns and would have to say that I haven't been disappointed with any of them yet.
Not to mention they have a 60 day satifaction guarantee and a lifetime repair warranty.
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Not to mention they have a 60 day satifaction guarantee and a lifetime repair warranty.
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can't go wrong with a used Rock River
Arms version, that you testfired before buying, and got for 3/4 of current retail (or less). Personally, I'd say to finish a KT Ordnance 80% lower, so you have at least one real rifle that Big Brother doesn't know about, and put Model 1 Sales parts on it.
Arms version, that you testfired before buying, and got for 3/4 of current retail (or less). Personally, I'd say to finish a KT Ordnance 80% lower, so you have at least one real rifle that Big Brother doesn't know about, and put Model 1 Sales parts on it.
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·I've only owned two. A new Colt A3 with 16 inch barrel and a new Bushmaster V Match Carbine, same length barrel. The Colt was tight and well finished. The Bushmaster was well finished but maybe not quite as tight. The Bushmaster shoots 1/4 MOA at 100 yds. with loads it likes. The Colt wouldn't shoot under 3 MOA with anything. Which one do you think I kept.
Bill Waits,
Bill Waits,
Can't say I've ever owned one, but I've fired several. The fully automatic colt (w/brass catcher, fore grip, and suppressor) was easily the most fun to shoot (yes, it is legally owned and registered with the ATF), but I liked the Bushmaster the best. It had a custom trigger and 20" match barrel. Most accurate semi-auto rifle I've ever fired. Don't flame me for that *cough*223 fan*cough*andy*cough* I prefer manual operation.
then u need to keep your face OUT
of discussions about autoloading rifles, since you don't know jack [bleep] about them, or about effective combat type shooting. There's ZERO reason to prefer man op rifles. All you do is give up half of your hit rate, a VERY stupid thing to do, when the majority of the NEED to fire a rifle is at multiple targets,usually in either ambush or ambush-breaking type of encounters. It's really essential that a fighting rifle be able to get 5-10 hits, in a very few seconds. You aint fighting Indians with muzzleloaders or bows anymore. You wont even be fighting against bolt actions, as they did in WW2 and Korea. You will be fighting AK's, sks's, M16's, and if all you have is a lever action,much less a bolt action, yoiu wont last long.
you wont HAVE chopper evac, artillery and fighter plane support, a safe base to run to, like the military snipers have and had. Nor any real med care. so the SLIGHTEST frag in your face, hands, etc is likely to mean a disabling infection.
of discussions about autoloading rifles, since you don't know jack [bleep] about them, or about effective combat type shooting. There's ZERO reason to prefer man op rifles. All you do is give up half of your hit rate, a VERY stupid thing to do, when the majority of the NEED to fire a rifle is at multiple targets,usually in either ambush or ambush-breaking type of encounters. It's really essential that a fighting rifle be able to get 5-10 hits, in a very few seconds. You aint fighting Indians with muzzleloaders or bows anymore. You wont even be fighting against bolt actions, as they did in WW2 and Korea. You will be fighting AK's, sks's, M16's, and if all you have is a lever action,much less a bolt action, yoiu wont last long.
you wont HAVE chopper evac, artillery and fighter plane support, a safe base to run to, like the military snipers have and had. Nor any real med care. so the SLIGHTEST frag in your face, hands, etc is likely to mean a disabling infection.
Because shooting Rambo style and John Wayning is going to keep me alive while I'm elk hunting? You don't use man-ops because you couldn't find the lever or the bolt handle. You'd rather sit there and pop off shots wildly like it's a Hollywood movie.
I've fired autoloaders, cleaned them, broken them down, etc. Just because I have a personal preferance for man-ops doesn't make my opinion invalid. I know which brands are reliable, I know what make good accessories, and I know that most people here aren't going to war and just want something that's fun to shoot. In addition, few people posting here need "combat style" shooting of training. If you want that, join the military, coward.
I've fired autoloaders, cleaned them, broken them down, etc. Just because I have a personal preferance for man-ops doesn't make my opinion invalid. I know which brands are reliable, I know what make good accessories, and I know that most people here aren't going to war and just want something that's fun to shoot. In addition, few people posting here need "combat style" shooting of training. If you want that, join the military, coward.
I volunteered for nam, punk, and I
helped TRAIN the guys who influenced the way the rifle is taught to the VERY few guys in the military who ever USE the rifle, to any extent at all. Nothing says you can't hunt with a BAR, and what you "know" about shooter gear and accessories, I could write in paragraph.
helped TRAIN the guys who influenced the way the rifle is taught to the VERY few guys in the military who ever USE the rifle, to any extent at all.
Nothing says you can't hunt with a BAR, and what you "know" about shooter gear and accessories, I could write in paragraph.
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No, he wasn't - he was a piss-poor dog handler in Korea, 150 miles away from the DMZ.84 C4 said:
Why do I say he was a piss-poor dog handler - he doesn't know the basics of dog handling and got his butt handed to him by "real" dog handlers.
He has also admitted to abusing the dogs he was in charge of. (His own statements, not second hand rumor crap).
He had nothing to do with rifle doctrine - that's clear as his ideas are pretty much opposite reality and run counter to what IS being taught.
He will not last two days if SHTF. (I'd say one day, but since he only does half-day ftx's... well, you get the picture.)
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I can back Aslan up on this -- How can I, you may ask?Aslan said:
It's easy, I have a copy of the TARD'S DD form 214. It seems that he foolishly let it be posted on the Internet, and as such, it is public information now.
TA-TA TARD.
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I see a lot of posters like Bushmaster. The only thing I know about Bushmaster is that one that blew up and almost blew a friends wrist off. You should see what it's like when a thirty round magazine gets set off.
And I have seen a lot of the "purple" Bushmaster rifles. I don't know what causes quiet a few of their receivers to look purple.
Having said all of that, I would like to have at least one, or two of each, of the major AR manufacturers rifles. Could be a lot of fun.
When you get into which is the best of anything, rifles or what ever it is, it usually becomes a Ford and Chevy discussion.
The AR-15, that is the best for you, is the one that has worked the best, for you. If you want to know about AR-15's, go to http://www.ar15.com/ as these guys really know their AR's.
I, personally, have four AR-15's now. Two AR15A2's and two CAR-15's. I would hazard a guess, that the other major manufacturers have made AR's that are just as good as any of my own.
In addition, I have three flat top uppers also. Two are 20" models and one is a 16" model. These uppers are Colt manufacture.
I will be buying more AR's this year. At least two, maybe three of which, will be from Les Baer. Pricy, but nice.
I am also looking real hard at the M1A's too. The high-end, camouflaged model, looks like need to have rifle. If, for nothing else, than just fun.
Bill
And I have seen a lot of the "purple" Bushmaster rifles. I don't know what causes quiet a few of their receivers to look purple.
Having said all of that, I would like to have at least one, or two of each, of the major AR manufacturers rifles. Could be a lot of fun.
When you get into which is the best of anything, rifles or what ever it is, it usually becomes a Ford and Chevy discussion.
The AR-15, that is the best for you, is the one that has worked the best, for you. If you want to know about AR-15's, go to http://www.ar15.com/ as these guys really know their AR's.
I, personally, have four AR-15's now. Two AR15A2's and two CAR-15's. I would hazard a guess, that the other major manufacturers have made AR's that are just as good as any of my own.
In addition, I have three flat top uppers also. Two are 20" models and one is a 16" model. These uppers are Colt manufacture.
I will be buying more AR's this year. At least two, maybe three of which, will be from Les Baer. Pricy, but nice.
I am also looking real hard at the M1A's too. The high-end, camouflaged model, looks like need to have rifle. If, for nothing else, than just fun.
Bill
never said I was,punk. DI's only teach
twits like you. the guys I shot with train the Delta Force, Seals, etc. I said I VOLUNTEERED for nam, not that I went there. I left Oakland with jungle fatiques and orders that said "RVN", but while I was TDY on Okinawa, getting dog handler training, my entire 40man class was "diverted" to Korea. March, 1972.
I never abused a dog. I RIGHTEOUSLY <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>ed up one that tried to kill me, and again when it tried to kill my partner (his handler) Later, the Army killed that dog, because my partner wouldn't let ME handle the pos. I had him "buffaloed", but Deeds was scared of Dusty, and Dusty KNEW it. He just got worse and worse after I left, and finally he wouldn't work at all, so they put a needle in him.
twits like you. the guys I shot with train the Delta Force, Seals, etc.
I said I VOLUNTEERED for nam, not that I went there. I left Oakland with jungle fatiques and orders that said "RVN", but while I was TDY on Okinawa, getting dog handler training, my entire 40man class was "diverted" to Korea. March, 1972. I never abused a dog. I RIGHTEOUSLY <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>ed up one that tried to kill me, and again when it tried to kill my partner (his handler) Later, the Army killed that dog, because my partner wouldn't let ME handle the pos. I had him "buffaloed", but Deeds was scared of Dusty, and Dusty KNEW it. He just got worse and worse after I left, and finally he wouldn't work at all, so they put a needle in him.
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Re: never said I was,punk. DI's only teach
TARD, why is it that nobody believes you? Curious people want to know!
Bill
Another post EXCRETED from the TARD'S vivid imagination.223 fan said:twits like you. the guys I shot with train the Delta Force, Seals, etc.
I never abused a dog. I RIGHTEOUSLY <font color=red>[**censored**]</font>ed up one that tried to kill me, and again when it tried to kill my partner (his handler) Later, the Army killed that dog, because my partner wouldn't let ME handle the pos. I had him "buffaloed", but Deeds was scared of Dusty, and Dusty KNEW it. He just got worse and worse after I left, and finally he wouldn't work at all, so they put a needle in him.
TARD, why is it that nobody believes you? Curious people want to know!
Bill
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My gut reaction handling a few has been that Bushmaster was the way to go. Glad the poll so far has supported this idea. Of course, I learned of more manufacturers I could have put on the poll since I posted it. Even could have put "do it yourself" for a parts gun.
So what twist rate do you all prefer? Guess it depends on the weight bullet, huh?
So what twist rate do you all prefer? Guess it depends on the weight bullet, huh?
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Re: never said I was,punk. DI's only teach
SICK, LAME AND LAZY, BLIND, CRIPPLED AND CRAZY?
I am getting some more information on your arrest record TARD! I hear there is more to your record, than drugs and suppressors. Arrest and conviction records are public information now TARD. Care to comment?
The things, I am hearing ,indicate that your are a deviant, and perverted. Why, am I hearing these things TARD?
Bill
Diverted? Or was it because you were found to be:223 fan said:twits like you. the guys I shot with train the Delta Force, Seals, etc.
SICK, LAME AND LAZY, BLIND, CRIPPLED AND CRAZY?
You sick, abusive idiot, you have not done one rightous think in your entire sorry-ass life.
I am getting some more information on your arrest record TARD! I hear there is more to your record, than drugs and suppressors. Arrest and conviction records are public information now TARD. Care to comment?
The things, I am hearing ,indicate that your are a deviant, and perverted. Why, am I hearing these things TARD?
Bill
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