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an alloy compact 1911 is same size, 24 ozs, offers at LEAST 3x the power, ina controlable package, with a .22 unit. The diff,of course, is you have to think that your life is WORTH the extra $500 or so. most aint.
 

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If you're the spray and pray guy like Melvin who thinks that a fast miss is better than a slower hit, then you'll believe anything. Melvin just said in another thread that the 22 stops most trouble before it begins so, since the MAK is better and more powerful than the 22 then the MAK is the better choice.

You lose. We win. Sorry Melvin.

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Can't beat what Erika said gunkid. I guess 'lose' is your middle name, right gunkid?
 

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an alloy compact 1911 is same size, 24 ozs, offers at LEAST 3x the power, ina controlable package, with a .22 unit. The diff,of course, is you have to think that your life is WORTH the extra $500 or so. most aint.
Are you saying a .45 WITH a .22 "unit" has 3 times the knock down power of a 9 X 18 Makarov? You have said that your M21 with a "can" of course, will handle any problems, but now your saying a cartirdge with considerably more power is not enough? Clarify, please.
 

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I can tell without looking that NONE of you come up with anything to contravert what I said. The wt,size and power numbers CAN'T be argued with. They are FACTS. The Mak is way too big and heavy for a pants pocket. You'd have to wear Mechanic's coverals to have pockets big enough to let you get your hand into a firing grip on that pos.
 

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223 fan said:
I can tell without looking that NONE of you come up with anything to contravert what I said. The wt,size and power numbers CAN'T be argued with. They are FACTS. The Mak is way too big and heavy for a pants pocket. You'd have to wear Mechanic's coverals to have pockets big enough to let you get your hand into a firing grip on that pos.
Try answering a question for a change. You stated that a (I won't say yours, because you don't have one) M21 is a good stopper but a 9X18 is not? PLease explain.
 

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What braniac carries ANY pistol completely dropped inside of the front pants pocket of their trousers? Do you know how FAT you'd have to be to not have even a small pistol show up? That or maybe you're a Moslem female wearing a burka.

You'd also have to have sizeable pockets just to conveniently get your pistol out with not snagging. You your modify your pockets, but then you'd have to modify all of your pants unless you were a dirtbag or a hobo and just wore the same pair all of the time.

Having the pistol completely in your front pocket like that is total clusterf^ck and bespeaks of someone who's only 'thought' about it and never actually tried it in day to day use in the REAL world.

The fact is that the Mak is a superb carry pistol, safe, tough, utterly reliable, an decently potent, especially with 115gr ammo.

For REAL pocket carry in a pair of jeans, the Mak is perfectly sized in that the grip is readily available, especially with an Uncle Mike's 'slipper' style holster. With a shirt that can cover the grip, the weapon doesn't print at all.

An M21? You're almost better off with a good knife, like a Cold Steel Tanto, in a side mounted sheath in the small of your back.
 

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big deal, 220 ft lbs, 6.7", 27 oz Mak, hell an alloy compact 1911 is same size, 24 ozs, offers at LEAST 3x the power, ina controlable package, with a .22 unit. The diff,of course, is you have to think that your life is WORTH the extra $500 or so. most aint.

223 fan said:
I can tell without looking that NONE of you come up with anything to contravert what I said. The wt,size and power numbers CAN'T be argued with. They are FACTS. The Mak is way too big and heavy for a pants pocket. You'd have to wear Mechanic's coverals to have pockets big enough to let you get your hand into a firing grip on that pos.
So this 1911 compact is supposed to fit in a pocket real well, same size as the Mak and only 3 oz lighter, yet the Mak needs some kind of 'Mechanic's coverals'.

That does not compute gunkid. Me think you are fos again.
 

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He's never tried to carry a Mak and he's never shot one.
 
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