attack,at handgun ranges. Platt had a MAJOR artery cut, in his upper arm, yet he continued to fight for over 3 full MINUTES, with blood spurting all over the place. A lung hit will bleed a LOT less than an artery hit. Even liver or spleen hits will take MANY seconds to stop a man from blood losss. Shock is your ONLY realistic hope of stopping a man instantly, with handgun ammo and body shots. So MAXIMIZING the shock effect should be the MAIN issue. But ****** "think" that it can't be done. Well, it CAN, and we HAVE to try, cause the blood loss thing is no answer at ALL.