Rich Z said:
I got concerned about content back when I first started up this site. Had some yokels posting BS so I shut the gates to unregistered posting and blocked them out cold. Well, the site DIED like it had hit a brick wall head on, although I had a core group of what I hoped would be regulars here. Just couldn't seem to reach critical mass and the core group just faded away. Even now, most are not back, and maybe never will. Actually things got so bad that I seriously considered shutting it down completely and using the vBulletin license for another site I was thinking about starting up. But I decided to let it just run on neutral for a while and see what happened.
So Andy/223 fan showed up. Yeah, he's rather abrasive, and I wish he were different, but to be honest, I do read what he says, and although I don't agree with all of it, I do agree with some of it. I do believe he has a core base of knowlege he is drawing on, but yes, the delivery does need to have the rough edges removed. Right or wrong, he is attempting to get this site rolling, and I am not about to look a gift horse in the mouth. Should I ban him for threats, both overt and implied? Why yes, I should, and the administrator blood in me wants to do that, but I'm not going to.
Questions:
1. What core base of knowledge? Davis has none.
Davis is a known criminal, advocating criminal acts. Does the word
accessory give you pause?
2. How is John Melvin Davis,
helpfully, trying to get this site rolling? Curious people want to know!
John Melvin Davis, exconvict, is not trying to get this site rolling. Davis is on an sociopathic ego trip. Would you like me to post the definition of a sociopath, for you?
If you do not want to ban him, edit the CRAP out of his posts. Or, it will look like you are selfishly using him, for your own purposes, and to hell with decent folk.
This time around, I am not being so hasty. Yeah, maybe things will get dicey and the BS more than hip deep, but I'm staying my hand and just watching to see what happens. After all, it can't be much worse than the first time around when I saw the blood of this site just spilling into the sand and nothing I could do to save it. I was pumping pay per clicks through the nose for this site and it just wasn't helping at all. So will this be better than being a dead site? Beats me, but there's only one way to find out.
If you do not want to personally moderate Davis's posts, find a person who will fairly edit out Davis's crap, but leave the main content intact. There is a good way to do this, which I have used with much success, before. This can be done without overly excessive moderation.
There is a also another way to successfully do this without editing John Melvin Davis's, abrasive posting. A way to do it that will satisfy everybody, even me! Well, Davis may pout a little, but his posts will be intact.
So yeah, I know people aren't going to like some of the things said, and feathers are going to be ruffled, but that's just going to have to be the way it is. Freedom is like that I guess, when I think about it. The real cost of freedom is having to put up with other people doing things you don't particularly like. So grin and bear it, gentlemen (and ladies), just like I am going to do. I'm hoping in the long run it will prove to be worthwhile.
Freedom? That is not freedom -- it is capitulation to a criminal sociopath!
As far as me taking the lead and starting conversations, heck I tried that for a while, but got tired of just talking to myself. And I'll be the first to admit that I am no expert. Been collecting and shooting since the late 70s but I am not going to try to blow smoke and make you think I am something that I am not. Honestly, I know I am just too busy to be able to practice enough to be more than just a passable shot, but it doesn't bother me that I am just average. Heck, I just like to talk, listen, and learn about guns, and decided why not just make my own site where I can make it what I want? If you all want changes in this site, well just let me know. I don't have any axes to grind and I like to play around with programming, so I'm willing to see what I can do to make this site what YOU want it to be as well.
Rich, I think you are trying to be a decent guy about the whole Johm Melvin Davis thing. The problem with decent people is, that they get kicked in the teeth a lot. That shouldn't happen here.
I have my own opinions on things, but I am willing to listen to what someone has to say with the notion in mind that I just may be wrong. No harm in that if you understand that being wrong is just an opportunity to learn something new and not an attack on your manhood. NO ONE is always right about everything. Anyone who even comes close to believing that has just lost the ability to learn and doesn't know it.
No one has said they are always right. They have said that John Melvin Davis's attitude, and the way he expresses himself, is
wrong all of the time.
So help me out here. Cut down the name calling, whether or not the person you are calling names deserves it or not.
I would love to help you out, however, from reading how you want things to be, the posters, except for John Melvin Davis, will be doing all of the helping, and Davis will be free and unfettered to do his habitually
excremental posting.
I don't think you will get much help, until you curb Davis.
I have helped you by not calling him the TARD. I may start it again, because John Melvin Davis, is a criminal RETARD. Would you like me to prove he is, in fact, a criminal.
It really doesn't help matters and only adds fuel to the fire. Read any conversation where one side cusses and raises verbal abuse to new levels, and the other side is calm and rational. The calm rational guy can be wrong as all hell, but you will normally find yourself siding with him anyway just because the other side just grates against your nerves. Listening to an asshole who is right is much more difficult to do than listening to a gentleman who is wrong. So in here, be an example of what you want to see in other people.
Well, that would be the politically correct way of handling the problem, wouldn't it?
The majority of the American people are fighters. We are known as a Nation of fighters. Sooo, John Melvin Davis gets fought.
We refuse to tuck our tail in and be beaten upon by a social malcontent.[/quote]
I will very calmly, and rationally, flagellate John Melvin Davis, over the head, everytime I think it is necessary. For the GOOD of his SOUL of course!
As I said above there is a simple, and easy way, to handle not just John Melvin Davis's offensive posts, and conduct, but all offensive posting and conduct.
Bill