Cooper said 8 rds a day sufficed, Iwo Jima's
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Quiet the contrary TARD, it makes you look like an unstable person, with severe mental problems.andy said:most severe fighting.Kind of makes u twits and your 300 rds of 308(in bob) and 3000 more in storage) look a bit STUPID, doesn't it?
Sociopathic mental problems. Would you like me to post the definition of a sociopath for you TARD?
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8 rounds a day. I wonder how he arrived at that number. There were thousands of men on that island, some armed with the M1, some with the carbine or Thompson and then there were the BAR's and heavy MG's along with air support.
Do you remember braying about there being no re-supply during shtf? 300rds carried and 3000+ in storage makes sense to me.
RIKA
Do you remember braying about there being no re-supply during shtf? 300rds carried and 3000+ in storage makes sense to me.
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Cooper may have went though 8 rounds a day
I have seen many live movie clips and read many acounts of the WWII Pacific theater and those men went though a hell of a lot more than 8 rifle rounds a day.
It was a meat grinder getting off the beach head a Iwo Jima.
Where did you come up with 3k in storage that number seems pretty low to me?
Teuf,
I have seen many live movie clips and read many acounts of the WWII Pacific theater and those men went though a hell of a lot more than 8 rifle rounds a day.
It was a meat grinder getting off the beach head a Iwo Jima.
I don't think so, when it comes time for me and mine to start shooting, I'm not going to be shy about it. Suppresive fire saves lives and is an essencial part of fire and manuver when things get close.
Where did you come up with 3k in storage that number seems pretty low to me?
Teuf,
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I don't plan to average eight rounds a day for defensive or hunting use (the only things you're likely to use ammo for, post-shtf), but assume Cooper's right about it.
At "eight rounds a day", that 300 rounds is only around a five-week supply.
IMO, the whole thing is a non-issue. I don't expect to use eight rounds a day, as I wouldn't expect to survive very long if needing that much defensive ammo if on my own (no support).
Other side of that coin is that having an extra 300 rounds only costs $57, even if you buy it at walmart ($7.58 for 40 rounds of Winchester FMJ); it's even cheaper in bulk. Again, imo, anyone not willing to make that small an investment in their (and their family's) own survival interest, is probably too cheap to buy batteries for the smoke detector as well.
Will I need the three fire extinguishers in the house and the two in the garage? Probably not, but I'm not getting rid of them just because of the "odds". If we just lived by the odds, there'd be no reason to carry a spare tire or jumper cables in the vehicle. The "odds" of needing either are VERY slim on any given day, aren't they...?
To me, it's not about the odds, it's about the "stakes".
At "eight rounds a day", that 300 rounds is only around a five-week supply.
IMO, the whole thing is a non-issue. I don't expect to use eight rounds a day, as I wouldn't expect to survive very long if needing that much defensive ammo if on my own (no support).
Other side of that coin is that having an extra 300 rounds only costs $57, even if you buy it at walmart ($7.58 for 40 rounds of Winchester FMJ); it's even cheaper in bulk. Again, imo, anyone not willing to make that small an investment in their (and their family's) own survival interest, is probably too cheap to buy batteries for the smoke detector as well.
Will I need the three fire extinguishers in the house and the two in the garage? Probably not, but I'm not getting rid of them just because of the "odds". If we just lived by the odds, there'd be no reason to carry a spare tire or jumper cables in the vehicle. The "odds" of needing either are VERY slim on any given day, aren't they...?
To me, it's not about the odds, it's about the "stakes".
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Hey TARD, how about posting the article where Jeff Cooper said anything like that.andy said:most severe fighting.
Bill
John, anybody who survives ONE session
post shtf, ONE day, of Iwo Jima type conflict, will do so only by LUCK. so why bother PLANNING to screw up THAT badly? Stick to thick cover and darkness, and you won't HAVE to fire 50 rds a year)(at MEN) and 40 of those can be .22lr, just as easy. After a year, it will be VERY mellow, either because something made it so, or because 99% of population is DEAD. By then' only" having a silent .22 auto rifle will make you WAY ahead of nearly everyone. The centerfire autorifle ammo will be GONE, because of twits who "think" that suppressive fire works on the INDIVIDUAL level. It DOESN'T. Not when the enemy is DESPERATE to take you. they will HAVE to take you, or die later, anyway, if shtf. So they might as WELL "try" you, ya see. 5 rds of 223 and 50 rds of 22lr will easily feed me and mine for a years even if I DIDN'T have traps, nets, snares, trotlines, stored grain, etc.
If you SUCCEED at much of the combat, u'll HAVE guns and ammo to pick up from the dead, ya know. Silenced ambush-harassment is the ONLY tactic that makes any real sense,when the SLIGHTEST frag, penetrating your face, etc, can mean an infection that weakens you, and thus, helps something ELSE kill you.Post shtf, if you CAN'T handle it with a canned .22, it'll be a MISTAKE to get involved in it, period. regardess of WHAT gun or rounds you have. It will just LEAD to something ELSE that you can't handle, so why take the RISK, hmm?
post shtf, ONE day, of Iwo Jima type conflict, will do so only by LUCK. so why bother PLANNING to screw up THAT badly? Stick to thick cover and darkness, and you won't HAVE to fire 50 rds a year)(at MEN) and 40 of those can be .22lr, just as easy. After a year, it will be VERY mellow, either because something made it so, or because 99% of population is DEAD. By then' only" having a silent .22 auto rifle will make you WAY ahead of nearly everyone. The centerfire autorifle ammo will be GONE, because of twits who "think" that suppressive fire works on the INDIVIDUAL level. It DOESN'T.
Not when the enemy is DESPERATE to take you. they will HAVE to take you, or die later, anyway, if shtf. So they might as WELL "try" you, ya see. 5 rds of 223 and 50 rds of 22lr will easily feed me and mine for a years even if I DIDN'T have traps, nets, snares, trotlines, stored grain, etc.If you SUCCEED at much of the combat, u'll HAVE guns and ammo to pick up from the dead, ya know. Silenced ambush-harassment is the ONLY tactic that makes any real sense,when the SLIGHTEST frag, penetrating your face, etc, can mean an infection that weakens you, and thus, helps something ELSE kill you.Post shtf, if you CAN'T handle it with a canned .22, it'll be a MISTAKE to get involved in it, period. regardess of WHAT gun or rounds you have. It will just LEAD to something ELSE that you can't handle, so why take the RISK, hmm?
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Re: John, anybody who survives ONE session
Remember now, you personal quotes mean nothing, only published quotes, that can be verified, are proof. Otherwise we only have your word on it, and you know what we think of your unsupported word, don't you?
Remember TARD, Hackathorne, quoted Cooper saying you were a little out of plumb!
Due to the difficulty of your reputation, to establish any credibility at all, you need published proof of statements until your credibility is established.
Sorry but that is it!
Bill
What is all of the above? It means nothing! Where was your quote published?andy said:post shtf, ONE day, of Iwo Jima type conflict, will do so only by LUCK. so why bother PLANNING to screw up THAT badly? Stick to thick cover and darkness, and you won't HAVE to fire 50 rds a year)(at MEN) and 40 of those can be .22lr, just as easy. After a year, it will be VERY mellow, either because something made it so, or because 99% of population is DEAD. By then' only" having a silent .22 auto rifle will make you WAY ahead of nearly everyone. The centerfire autorifle ammo will be GONE, because of twits who "think" that suppressive fire works on the INDIVIDUAL level. It DOESN'T.
If you SUCCEED at much of the combat, u'll HAVE guns and ammo to pick up from the dead, ya know. Silenced ambush-harassment is the ONLY tactic that makes any real sense,when the SLIGHTEST frag, penetrating your face, etc, can mean an infection that weakens you, and thus, helps something ELSE kill you.Post shtf, if you CAN'T handle it with a canned .22, it'll be a MISTAKE to get involved in it, period. regardess of WHAT gun or rounds you have. It will just LEAD to something ELSE that you can't handle, so why take the RISK, hmm?
Remember now, you personal quotes mean nothing, only published quotes, that can be verified, are proof. Otherwise we only have your word on it, and you know what we think of your unsupported word, don't you?
Remember TARD, Hackathorne, quoted Cooper saying you were a little out of plumb!
Due to the difficulty of your reputation, to establish any credibility at all, you need published proof of statements until your credibility is established.
Sorry but that is it!
Bill
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