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On the morning of 8 October 1918, elements of the 328th Infantry, 82nd Division, United States Army, were pinned down by German machine-gun fire. Seventeen men, under the command of Sgt. Bernard Early, were ordered to out-flank the machine guns.

Shortly after they left their own lines, they came across a German officer and several soldiers having breakfast. Believing that they were surrounded, the Germans surrendered. However, before Early could detach a man to take the prisoners back through the lines, intensive machine gun fire swept the patrol. Eight American soldiers survived. Sgt. Early was killed. As the remaining non-com, Cpl. Alvin York took command of the patrol. While the remaining Americans covered their prisoners, trying at the same time to avoid enemy fire, York spotted the location of the German machine guns, about 30 yards away. In addition to his Enfield M1917 rifle, he also carried a Colt .45 automatic pistol. The German gunners peeked over the tops of their Maxim guns to avoid hitting their own men.

With the appearance of each face, framed in its "coal-scuttle" helmet, York's Enfield spoke. One shot equaled one dead gunner. York was from the Tennessee mountains where firearms were used to put food on the table. Mountain folk were frugal, making each shot count.

Unnoticed by York, several Germans moved forward, locating York's position. Out of sight, they counted the shots from York's rifle, establishing the pattern of his shooting. They counted a series of 5 shots from his Enfield and rushed York to gain the advantage of the few extra seconds it would take him to reload the rifle.

As the Germans charged, with bayonrts fixed they came into easy pistol range. York brought his.45 automatic into action, stopping the patrol in its tracks, killing all of them He continued shooting and advancing, killing a total of 25 German soldiers and capturing 132 by himself. York was promoted to Sergeant and awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.

York was equally skilled with a rifle and a pistol. As Garand say "shot placement counts."
 

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Yes, Alvin York was a true American Hero ... and he did it all with a bolt action rifle and a Colt 1911.

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EAsy. By the time that the US entered WW1, the Germans had been fighting for 4 years, and were badly demoralized. they were happy to surrender to Americans rather than to Russians, British or French troops, who truly hated their guts. Sure. 45 ball can stop a man who can barely stagger forward, due to trenchfoot, dysentery, exhaustion, starvation, dehydration,and other illnesses.
 

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EAsy. By the time that the US entered WW1, the Germans had been fighting for 4 years, and were badly demoralized. they were happy to surrender to Americans rather than to Russians, British or French troops, who truly hated their guts.
You know nothing of WW1 history. The Germans were strong and secure in their trenches and behind their machine guns. It took a combined US, Brit, Canadian and French effort to defeat them.

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Sure. 45 ball can stop a man who can barely stagger forward, due to trenchfoot, dysentery, exhaustion, starvation, dehydration,and other illnesses.
You are totally blind as to the 45 ball capabilities in skilled hands. (Don't you wish you were skilled? :D )


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York said that after he .45'd the bayonet guys, they lay on the ground "squealin' jess like pigs".
Silly reference andy - it means nothing to this discussion. You would be squealing like a pig, rolling around and messing your pants if you had a 45 bullet in your guts.

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York said that after he .45'd the bayonet guys, they lay on the ground "squealin' jess like pigs".
It's amazing just how much hollering an injured person can do.

What's your point?

Does their yelling have any bearing on anything?

More silliness.

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GunKid's versopn of histort is oure nonsese. Take "rather than to Russians"

The Germans had defeated the Russians and knocked them out of the was in early 1917. There were no Russian troops fighting the Germans in 1918. The rest of his remarks are the same sort of foolish drivel!.
 

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GunKid's versopn of histort is oure nonsese. Take "rather than to Russians"

The Germans had defeated the Russians and knocked them out of the was in early 1917. There were no Russian troops fighting the Germans in 1918. The rest of his remarks are the same sort of foolish drivel!.
Ha ha ha ha ha

Figures - after thinking about it, I do beleive you're right!

Too funny.

Someone should keep their pecker out of the cyber meat grinder...

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andy said:
EAsy. By the time that the US entered WW1, the Germans had been fighting for 4 years, and were badly demoralized. they were happy to surrender to Americans rather than to Russians, British or French troops, who truly hated their guts. Sure. 45 ball can stop a man who can barely stagger forward, due to trenchfoot, dysentery, exhaustion, starvation, dehydration,and other illnesses.
Ah yes, the TARD was there. How well he remembers the conditions -- NOT!
 
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