[andy]

have realistic ability with the defensive pistol. if you have the basics down, hitting the chest at 5m is nothing special in the way of a challenge, and that DOES cover over 90% of the justifiable shooting a civilian ever has to do. Also, 90% of the attackers wont MAKE you hit them with a bullet, IF you get the gun out and VISIBLE to them, in TIME for them to NOTICE it, and stop their attack. This is not always possible. So say 20% of all attackers get shot at, and 90% of those are at ranges under 5 yds. That means that only 2 out of 100 will make you shoot at more than 5 yds. So why BOTHER to practice at such ranges, hmm? Only 1 in 100 will make you fire at more than 30 ft.

The ISSUE, then,is to be SUPER FAST, at 6 ft and less, and KNOW when and how to use unarmed techniques,because they are both faster and more likely to result in the desired effect (if you are a strong, able bodied man). you certainly do NOT need a lot of live, centerfire shooting to achieve such a goal. What you NEED, is a LOT of "dry" ccw draw practice, with a fair amount of primer-only wax bullet and .22 confirmation that you can indeed HIT the chest, or the brain, at such great draw speeds,or "raise and hit" (from low ready) or traverse and hit, or pivot and hit. We are talking times of under .50 second for the low ready starts, on an electronic timer, and under 1 second flat, for ccw belt rigs. For hand on gun,in pocket starts, times under .70 second at 5 yds, under .55 second at arm's length ranges.

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[Magnum88C]

So if you can hit a chest (not a torso, a chest) target at 10 yards as fast as you can pull the trigger, there's no need to practice closer, but to increase your range until you can't hit that fast, and practice your rapid fire there.

Draw speed and speed to first shot can be practiced at home, with snap caps, and no $ at all expended. No need for the .22 "unit", no need for CBs, no need for wax bullets if all you're doing is working on speed to first hit. Work on getting the hits at the range.

 

[andy]

Not true. U will inevitably KID yourself that you are getting the hits, dryfire, when you AINT. Wax loads, .22 unit will prove that to you. NOBODY can hit as fast at 10 yds as at 10ft. if they can, then they are going MUCH too slow at 10 ft, much less what can be done at 6 ft, or at 3 ft. The fact that you are IGNORANT of this shows just how dumb most guy's training is.

 

[Magnum88C]

Nah, if you draw, drysnap and the sights are aligned on target, chances are, you'll hit it. See you practice at home, test it on the range, like I said.

Some poeple can hit, fast past 10 feet, but then that's with 17.5 years more practice than others that think they're some kind of expert.