[andy]

in the field? ditto dust, or salt water residues, or mud, or ice, in the dark, with hostiles all around? There's a reason why military rifles are built the way that they are, you know. Luminous sights on a lever action are a $200+ custom smithing job, not a drop in $100 thing like they are with an AR. It IS dark half of the time, ya know, and such sights are a HUGE help at hitting. they give you about 3x the effective range that you'd have with out them.

 

[Garand]

Ever try to get sand out of a pistol, ever try to get sand out of a semi auto rifle? or a shotgun? You own it, you shoot it, its to your advantage to know how to clean it. For example the army taught me how to disassemble and clean the bolt of an AR 15/M16 properly, I listened. You didn't thats why you had to admit to us that you don't know how to clean your AR completely!

 

[andy]

u r a liar, I never said any such thing.

I've BUILT AR's, from parts kits, done trigger jobs, etc, you twit.

 

[Garand]

And yet you don't know how to disassemble the bolt of an AR. I'd call "BULLSH*T" on you.

 

[84 C4]

I have a Marlin 336 (lever action .35), and a Rem 710 (bolt action '06), and the big thing that I've learned from man-ops is that they don't really need to be clean to shoot a cycle effectively. Now, it's not very good for the metal componants to leave grit and grime and what-not to abrase the metal surfaces. When I do clean it (after every range trip), it usually doesn't take me very long, everything on the 336 basically just "drops out" the bottom (except for about 3-4 components), and go back together quite easily. The 710 is even easier to clean, remove the bolt, run compressed air on the internals, and shove a rod down the barrel. 5 minutes, tops.