at 6 ft or so from the muzzle. Same as brain hit at 4m from the muzzle, same as chest hit at 11-12m from the muzzle. on a MOVING mark, that's a very representive target, covering all the reasonable range stuff for civilian justified defensive pistol firing. That's why I used the hitting of a couple of tossed up soda cans the test of real ability with the ccw pistol.