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you will survive only by luck. You are missing too much, and/or you are up against too many enemies. You are stupidly in open country in daylight, and that's just too dumb for words.
 

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U MIGHT survive needing 20 rds ONCE(by luck) or 10 rds twice (by luck) but if skill and proper tactics is going to saveyou, you will be in VERY few altercations that you dont win with 3-4 shots, tops(or break-contact, slip away, etc. )
 

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Nonsense, but hey, you want to break a leg in the freezing dark in the Rockies while packing almost no ammo, then go for it.

Just be sure to pin a note to your clothes so that after you're found they'll know what name to scribble on the marker where you are buried.
 

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Andy, just who do you think you will be fighting? Just stop posting fantasies and see a shrink.
 

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With only 4 rounds expended per fight, then you can save yourself a bunch of cash and get a super reliable Enfield No4 MkI for about $150. Lot's of penetration and killing power plus it holds 10 rounds. It also has vastly more range than a 11" CAR-15.
 

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Or, according to some authorities on the subject, since all the bad guys are in open country, you could just kill the one with the rifle you want...(!)
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fuck, is he stupid or what?
 

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A 12 year old in the 'thick cover' with a .410 will only need one round for gunkid. While the 11" POSCAR will be worthless, the 12 year old will be luck with a bunch of twinkies gunkid will have in his '30 lb' pack.
 

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This "four rounds per confrontation" is an AVERAGE of Law Enforcement versus scum, and civilian versus scum, not an average in the types of scenarios described in SHTF. Look at the Miami Shootout and those two idiot bank robbers' in LA. A couple more than four rounds wouldn't you say? Hundreds, maybe thousands of rounds were exchanged before LAPD granted those moron's their death wish.
 
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