and gets 1200 fps rather easily, in fact. The problem is not that such loads are dangerous, it's that they are very hard to control in rapidfire, even with the full size and wt 1911, that nobody actually CARRIES much, if at all. In an alloy commander, 185 at 1200 fps is a real beast. It slams the gun back into your hand so hard that if you don't have stocks and a ducktail on the gun, a flinch is bound to get inculcated. Even with the stocks and ducktail, it's the sort of thing that you'd have to do a LOT of getting used to, and you'd never get repeat hits much under .35 second, and you'd beat up a lot of such lw guns trying to do so, too..