circle, 10ft away, with full charge mag ammo, in N frame 357 yet? You've had a timer for MONTHS now, and it's supposedly SO easy, and you are supposedly such a wonderful shottist, and have so much time and money to BLOW on pointless bs. Wonder WHY you aint CROWING about having ACHIEVED this "easy" feat, hmm? You found OUT just how difficult it IS, didn't ya? JUST like I SAID it was. The MORE you actually KNOW about guns, shooting, cans, tactics, machining and smithing, the more you HAVE to admit that what I say is SPOT ON the PROVABLE truth.